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Anyone tried Innovate LC1 + Logworks?
Surrey Dave - 9/10/06 at 09:38 AM

Anyone tried Innovate LC1 + Logworks?


Wideband lambda controller + pc connection and data logging software, I believe can also monitor in realtime on pc.

Any 1st hand experience?


Volvorsport - 9/10/06 at 09:53 AM

yeah , just press record , then save that in logwork , it gives you on screen graphs of AFR.

if you ve got extra inputs like rpm , that makes it easier to understand.

its not hard , just need to try it a couple of times to get the hang of it .


paulf - 9/10/06 at 10:00 AM

Not tried that, but most LC1 users would be running megasquirt the new logging software for that is very good . I think it may also do real time monitoring now. If running carbs it wouldnt be to difficult to build the basic megasquirt unit without the injector drivers etc and use that to log to a laptop or palm , would be able to show temp, 02 air temp , TPS, Map , Revs etc depending on what inputs you were to use.
Could also be set up to run an edis or direct spark output for ignition only.
I am thinking about building some ignition only ECUs using the megasquirt and spark software and own design pcbs, as an advance over the megajolt for those people not wanting to go to full injection but who want the data logging option.
Paul.


Surrey Dave - 9/10/06 at 10:39 AM

Lc1 has no buttons it just a lambda sensor driver that connects to a pc.

Paulf: are you saying that if I had a megasquirt unit I could just use part of it and do datalogging?

If so do I still need a driver for the wideband lamda sensor?

I've got megajolt at the mo but might go to fuel injection , if so i can use my megajolt in conjunction with megasquirt .

what are the costs for a megasquirt unit?

[Edited on 9/10/06 by Surrey Dave]


Volvorsport - 9/10/06 at 11:00 AM

well , if youve installed the software , drive up the road and record it , you can view it back the same way


paulf - 9/10/06 at 06:03 PM

Yes you would be able to use the megasquirt to log info , but would need a controller such as the Lc1 to get the correct input signal to the megasquirt.
I run mine from the tacho output of the megajolt it is a Ms v2,2 with V3 firmware,as i dont need the ignition option it is able to do all I require from it.
It is easy to log using a laptop or as I do a palm pda.
I built my own Megasquirt I had to buy the board and processor and sourced the rest of the parts myself ,it came to £110 for everything required to build it.
Built units are in the region of £200 on E bay or imported from states.
Paul.

quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
Paulf: are you saying that if I had a megasquirt unit I could just use part of it and do datalogging?

If so do I still need a driver for the wideband lamda sensor?

I've got megajolt at the mo but might go to fuel injection , if so i can use my megajolt in conjunction with megasquirt .

what are the costs for a megasquirt unit?

[Edited on 9/10/06 by Surrey Dave]


Surrey Dave - 9/10/06 at 06:11 PM

So whatever you do you need a controller such as LC1 to run a wideband lmbda.

Also if you are running Megasquirt , i've heard that you can use Autotune?? very effectively with an input from a wideband lambda to help set the load sites.

Where do you get autotune from?


paulf - 9/10/06 at 07:43 PM

Auto tune is part of the standard tuning software, it will allow you to get the car running reasonably well just by driving it once the basic map is set up .
Megalog viwer is a free download and allows you to datalog and then run the datalog back and make manual adjustments or you can set it up to automatically adjust the installed map.
It does work very well and it would be possible to get a good usable map in a few hours of driving.I am only using a narrow band but have had good results and the car is now running really well with improved responsivness and top end power.
Paul.

quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
So whatever you do you need a controller such as LC1 to run a wideband lmbda.

Also if you are running Megasquirt , i've heard that you can use Autotune?? very effectively with an input from a wideband lambda to help set the load sites.

Where do you get autotune from?


givemethebighammer - 9/10/06 at 09:00 PM

I tuned my bike carbs on an LC1, logworks and laptop.

Set the idle up watching the laptop readout. Then took the car out for a low speed cruise and checked the AFR on the laptop. Then took the car out for a blast down the dual carriageway and checked again.

I also have a digital AFR gauge attached to my LC1 which I have mounted on the dashboard. If the car stumbles I can immediately see what the AFR is, check the rpm from the tach and have a reasonable idea of where I need to make an adjustment. Invaluable piece of kit IMHO.


Surrey Dave - 9/10/06 at 11:49 PM

What about these, it has inputs for rpm ,tps,£195 on thier website.

http://www.tuninguk.co.uk/inc/sdetail/544

[Edited on 9/10/06 by Surrey Dave]