Just spoke to a guy who advertises in Motoring News (S.L.R.). He emailed me last night from my wanted ad so i now he reads this site from time to time.

He can do me a 2.2 in kit form, all lightened and balanced with flywheel etc(as i want to build my own engine) for similar money that i can have a 2.1 built for.

Does anyone have experience of 2.2 conversions (V6 pistons with stroked crank)?

Reason for asking is i also have a lead for 2.1 in kit form which is obviously cheaper so need to weigh up pro's and cons.

Advert quotes 2.2 with good head, manifold and fuelling can achieve 188bhp / 173ft/lb at flywheel which to me sounds superb (im sure many would advertise similar for 200bhp which would make me suspicious). He also does work for the Brisca boys at a local stadium to me (Barford).

Cheers,
Darren.

I have a Pinto myself but....

is it really the best basis for a power engine?

Would a lighter lump not cost similar money?

Cheers,
James

EDIT: Meant to add: http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/pinto.htm


[Edited on 17/11/06 by James]

[Edited on 17/11/06 by James]

Lighter lump would be similar money in the end but id have to spend it all at once. Staying with Pinto still gives power and spreads the cost. Im also in old-school mode and like the Pinto.

Im just trying to determine where to draw the line at the moment. In terms of getting on peoples nerves ive crossed it but know i will not ever think beyond 2.2.
In the end ill probs go 2.1 in kit form and put remaining saves into BV head fund or making the magajolt and bike carb install reliable.

For now 2.2 discussion is just out of curiosity. I still recall Dave Walkers post ref how the 2.2 isnt a revving screamer but has loads of useable grunt and outshines a Zetec. What i do know is that im looking for good torque thro the rev range rather than flat out power. Following that some driving ability wont go amiss as well

Sounds very interesting Darren. The 2.2 should be very torquey.

Might I ask who it is?

James, I think a lighter engine would still cost a fair bit in terms of a new bell housings new exhausts, engine mounts etc etc. Given that Darren has all of that stuff now it makes sense.

That spec of pinto will see off most other cars and do 0-60 in about 4 seconds so I say why not?

Cheers

Mark

sorry you have said who it is I should read the post properly. How much does he want for a 2.2 kit?

Cheers

Mark

Will the stroked crank be a reground standard item of will it be a billet steel crank. Obviously if it is steel then reliability improves but I guess for the cost it is a reground cast item.

The 2.2 will be very torquey but will not be a great revver. OK if you have a long diff and can use the torque, so I guess a 3.44 or 3.1?.

Sounds like an interesting project though. I have opted for Zetec as it opens up lots of future potential and can be done very cheaply.

If going 2.2 I would suggest not using a cam any wilder than a 285 or you may lose lots of the benefit. It will probably need 48's (or at least 45's) to make good use of it.

I'm with the people who say change the engine. I don't think the pinto is a good basis for a high power engine. Yes it can be done without too much hassle, but will drink like a fish and be less reliable than a similar power, but newer design engine. Just my 2p worth.
Also, a lighter engine won't need as much power to give the performance figures you want. Which is why bike engines are good.........