jpindy3
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 09:26 AM |
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reversing light switch
hi all,i just thort,i need a reversing light for my retest,and then sh*t that means taking the tunal apart to get to it,and to get the tunal off a
need to take the dash off.im not to keen to do all that,also i dont have a reversing light switch,do you think i could make some sort of switch that
uses the gear stick.i dont know,anyone got any ideas please?????????
thanks jamie
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andrew.carwithen
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 09:29 AM |
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Are you talking SVA retest?
You don't need a reversing light for SVA.
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 09:33 AM |
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I believe Jamie took IVA which does require a reversing light.
To answer the question, a reversing light does not have to be activated by the gearbox. You can just have a switch on the dash, but if you do that you
must have a tell-tale light also on the dash to show that it's switched on. See section 29 of IVA manual.
[Edited on 26/5/09 by matt_claydon]
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jpindy3
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 09:47 AM |
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i took the iva,and you do need one,god knows why,its not as if its hard to see behind you,
have you got any ideas of how to make a switch??
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blakep82
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 10:38 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
have you got any ideas of how to make a switch??
easier to just buy one  have a look at matts post, it can be activated by a switch on the dashboard as long as you have a telltale warning light to
show when its on.
anyway, what gearbox have you got?
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andrew.carwithen
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 11:39 AM |
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You must be among the first on here to go through the IVA test, then.
Presumably, you've used the type 9 gearbox. Are you sure the switch isn't fitted?(just seems odd to fit the box without it) Have you
fitted a loom from MK, premier wiring etc. (which will have the correct connector for the switch incorporated in it) or did you make your own?
Just thinking that even if you retro-fit a dash mounted switch as others have suggested, you'll still have to run additional wiring down the
transmission tunnel to reversing lamp itself (the dedicated wiring in the loom will be permanently 'open circuit' because of the reversing
switch connector not being attached to the switch in gearbox)
So, unless you can do this from underneath the car, you're still going to have to take tunnel top etc. off (in which case you may as well just
fit the correct gearbox switch.)
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jimgiblett
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 12:05 PM |
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Cant help you with the reversing light question but nice to hear that there is a nother locoster in Horsham.
- Jim
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jpindy3
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 12:15 PM |
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panic over,i can get to the switch on the box without taking anything off,i thort it was where the speedo comes from!
i asked if you can have a switch on the dash vosa said no,you have to have a worning light,and it has to switch from the gearbox.
jamie
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blakep82
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 12:17 PM |
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lol vosa are wrong 
heres what iva says
Reverse lamps;
1.
They must be operational
2.
The correct number must be fitted to the vehicle (Table 1)
3.
They must emit white light.
4.
They must be positioned to face the rear
5.
They must operate by selection of reverse gear, or be fitted with a telltale warning device.
6.
Where two lamps are fitted they must be fitted symmetrically and be a matched pair.
so operated by reverse gear OR be fitted with a warning light.
never seen a production car with a warning light on the dash
[Edited on 26/5/09 by blakep82]
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02GF74
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 03:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
i took the iva,and you do need one,god knows why,its not as if its hard to see behind you,
so I take it you have never tried doing a 3 point turn in a Series Land Rover on a unlit road with ditches each side in deepest Wales?
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blakep82
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 03:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
i took the iva,and you do need one,god knows why,its not as if its hard to see behind you,
so I take it you have never tried doing a 3 point turn in a Series Land Rover on a unlit road with ditches each side in deepest Wales?
he's iva'ing a 7 remember
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jpindy3
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 05:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
i took the iva,and you do need one,god knows why,its not as if its hard to see behind you,
so I take it you have never tried doing a 3 point turn in a Series Land Rover on a unlit road with ditches each side in deepest Wales?
no i cant say i have,it sounds a peace of cake,
i did mean a 7 type car,with no roof.
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snapper
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 05:54 PM |
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You can get to the conections on the gearbox once you remove the gear lever, bit fiddly but can be done.
Set up all the wiring then the last thing you have to do is stick your hand down the hole and push it on
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I drink to forget
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 08:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
lol vosa are wrong
heres what iva says
Reverse lamps;
1.
They must be operational
2.
The correct number must be fitted to the vehicle (Table 1)
3.
They must emit white light.
4.
They must be positioned to face the rear
5.
They must operate by selection of reverse gear, or be fitted with a telltale warning device.
6.
Where two lamps are fitted they must be fitted symmetrically and be a matched pair.
so operated by reverse gear OR be fitted with a warning light.
never seen a production car with a warning light on the dash
[Edited on 26/5/09 by blakep82]
Have you ever seen a production car that has a reverse light switch?
I can't believe that they have to put "it's got to work" into the requirements
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blakep82
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 08:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
I can't believe that they have to put "it's got to work" into the requirements
but thats just it, they haven't.
its saying if it can work automatically then happy days OR if you need to do it by some other switch (like one on the dash for example) then you need
a warning light so you can't leave it on accidentally
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 08:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
I can't believe that they have to put "it's got to work" into the requirements
but thats just it, they haven't.
its saying if it can work automatically then happy days OR if you need to do it by some other switch (like one on the dash for example) then you need
a warning light so you can't leave it on accidentally
So "operational" doesn't mean "working"?
And I mean working as in the light comes on
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blakep82
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| posted on 26/5/09 at 08:32 PM |
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ah i thought you meant like it had to come on automatically when reverse is selected. that kind of operational.
makes sense to me that you have a reverse light.
it never made sense to me that they don't have to work for mot though...
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