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beagley

posted on 27/5/09 at 05:25 PM Reply With Quote
@ Wheel Horsepower for Yamaha R1

What is the observed.... er felt.... wheel horsepower of a Yamaha R1 engine from anybody that owns one?

I've seen figures ranging from 160 to 200.... that's quite a big difference.

[Edited on 5/27/2009 by beagley]





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mads

posted on 27/5/09 at 05:28 PM Reply With Quote
I think the 07-08 one is about 180bhp in a stock bike. Not sure about others.

edit: should read OP properly. my figure isnt a "at wheel" value. sorry.

[Edited on 27/5/09 by mads]





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daniel mason

posted on 27/5/09 at 05:29 PM Reply With Quote
what year engine do you want figures for?
200 bhp at wheels is not likely!

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StevieB

posted on 27/5/09 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
All I know is my mate had an early R1 (2000 IIRC) on carbs and it would pull a wheely in any gear, at any speed and at any revs with a twist of the throttle
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beagley

posted on 27/5/09 at 05:38 PM Reply With Quote
I've heard the 05 was a good year so let's say I'll use that one. I'm planning a MK Indy build hopefully shortly and want to use the R1.

I do like the 09 with the whole cross plane crank shaft business, but that kinda defeats the purpose of locosting.





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Miks15

posted on 27/5/09 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
isnt the busa about 180?

i woulda thought the R1 woulda been a bit less

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daniel mason

posted on 27/5/09 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
there is an mnr vortx un built in the for sale section with R1 motor for reasonable money
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progers

posted on 27/5/09 at 05:54 PM Reply With Quote
Anywhere between 130 and 140 rear wheel horsepower is the norm for an 98-2003 R1. Later generation R1's might sneak upto mid 140's if they are lucky.

Anyone claiming 160 at the wheels is talking boll*cks unless they have spent a fortune of tuning the engine or are using a Rolling road with over-inflated power figures (good for customer satisfaction...)

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beagley

posted on 27/5/09 at 06:03 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the replies.....

Next step I guess is which bike engine would be the best combination of power and frugality?





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eznfrank

posted on 27/5/09 at 06:10 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by beagley
frugality?


For the number of miles per year and the speed it's likely to be driven I'd not worry too much about frugality.

In reality (at least on the road) there aint a massive difference between all the stock bike engines, maybe a few 10ths to 60. If you're a big chap it might be worth going for something with a little more torque to help things along (hence I picked the ZX12).

R1 seems a good choice and well trodden path.

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hobzy

posted on 27/5/09 at 06:13 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by progers
Anywhere between 130 and 140 rear wheel horsepower is the norm for an 98-2003 R1. Later generation R1's might sneak upto mid 140's if they are lucky.

Anyone claiming 160 at the wheels is talking boll*cks unless they have spent a fortune of tuning the engine or are using a Rolling road with over-inflated power figures (good for customer satisfaction...)

- Paul


Agreed. Mine is 132 at the wheels at Holeshot after it was dynojetted. I've got it to 62 in 4.3 seconds (race technology ap22) and I'm crap at pulling away.






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beagley

posted on 27/5/09 at 06:21 PM Reply With Quote
Yeah, I'm figuring about 75% road use and 25% track time. I've seen (and heard) those ZX series engines and they sound wonderful.

I'm not a real big chap bout 86kg but the extra torque would be welcomed.





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thunderace

posted on 27/5/09 at 07:06 PM Reply With Quote
the r1 should be up to 2003 145bhp as its the same bhp as the thunderace but not as fast as the ace in a line up to 100mph as the thunderace has only 5 gears the thunderace is 0-60 in 2.4 0-100 in 6.0 an0-100 then stop dead is 10.2secs. and the engine is stronger than the r1 one ask any yamaha machanic.
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a4gom

posted on 27/5/09 at 08:15 PM Reply With Quote
05 engine should be good for top end of 140 at the wheels maybe 150, depends on drive train and what reverse your using. we put 2 on rollers 2 weeks ago mine did 147 in westfield with westfield reverse box through tran-x plate diff other did 146

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