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Author: Subject: first drive and all sorts of problems
jpindy3

posted on 17/6/09 at 08:39 PM Reply With Quote
first drive and all sorts of problems

well it ran fine for a little bit,then started to fire on 3,so i had a fiddle at the side of the road,i got it running on 4 i think it was a bad contact on no3 lead plug end,so i drove it towards home and i had a sudden loss of power and then it picked up then it happend again than just died,at this point i was just round the corner from home,so i had another quick look at that lead,then went for it,it started fine on 4 then died again just as i put it into 2nd so as i was rolling i turned the ingniton off as tryed to start it, it splutterd then a big puff of exhaust gas came out of the carbs,so i stoped got the bonit off quick,luckly it didnt catch alight,at this point i had pulled into my road,so i pushed it home.
so i started by checking the tapits and thay were all over the place,so i regaped them,all of them apart from 2inlet 2ex needed regaping thay were out by 0.01 none of them were out more than this.
i have a lumenition optronic and the blue leads,a cupple of mates said that lumenition is a load of crap,what is your take on it?any problems like i have?
and could anyone give me any pointers on maybe whats wrong?
oh the other thing it was driving really well on the way back from the iva,
thanks jamie

[Edited on 17/6/09 by jpindy3]

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clairetoo

posted on 17/6/09 at 08:49 PM Reply With Quote
I had a lot of trouble with luminition on a crossflow , but it was allways at the distributer end - I gave in when the advance/retard shed a screw and totally demolished the pickup
So I have a lumition `box` handy that I think is OK if needed ?





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jpindy3

posted on 17/6/09 at 08:52 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by clairetoo
I had a lot of trouble with luminition on a crossflow , but it was allways at the distributer end - I gave in when the advance/retard shed a screw and totally demolished the pickup
So I have a lumition `box` handy that I think is OK if needed ?


ok thanks,
i have got a megajolt im gona be installing it soon,but this lumenition kit cost me the up end of 200quid!!!!

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omega0684

posted on 17/6/09 at 08:54 PM Reply With Quote
mate sorry to hear that you had a bad first drive, have you checked the timing etc all the usual stuff, its not struggling with fuel etc.

have you made sure all the contacts are in good working order etc?


[Edited on 17/6/09 by omega0684]

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jpindy3

posted on 17/6/09 at 09:00 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
mate sorry to hear that you had a bad first drive, have you checked the timing etc all the usual stuff, its not struggling with fuel etc.

have you made sure all the contacts are in good working order etc?


[Edited on 17/6/09 by omega0684]


retimed the lumenition,left the can timing alone,im not that sure about fuel i have the reg set to 2.5psi the plugs look sweet,on thing i have noticed when it was running fine was when you give it alittle welly arount a round about im eather lossing or getting to much fuel as it splutters

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RichardK

posted on 17/6/09 at 09:08 PM Reply With Quote
I wouldn't worry about the gaps, they've just probably bedded down, have you checked your cam timing, have you got a vernier pulley or the standard ford cast item? Reading some of your recent posts I would really try and get some proper bike inlet rubbers and not use normal silicon hoses as the vacuum created when in use causes the walls of the tube to be sucked in and out which is why they gradually come off, glueing them on isn't going to be successful imho. Last thing you need is an engine fire mate.

You'll find the megajolt alot more stable and just give it lots more advance and start with a simple 2d map, I can send you mine over if you like.

Just a couple of bits there, when you get these little niggles out of the way I bet you'll have an even bigger grin on your face. We all get niggly little things to sort out, that goes with the territory of owning a car like this I'm afraid. Don't let it get you down, you'll soon get them sorted.

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tomgregory2000

posted on 17/6/09 at 09:10 PM Reply With Quote
Fuel filter clean and not blocked?
It could be blocked enough so when on tickover/start up it runs but cant flow enough to run the engine (been there)
Could be wrong but my 2pence worth

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austin man

posted on 17/6/09 at 09:24 PM Reply With Quote
if youve had a new tank it is common that the fuel filter blocks, I have seen it on 3 car now all with aluminium tanks.





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Dusty

posted on 17/6/09 at 09:24 PM Reply With Quote
Might be vacuum in the fuel tank if you haven't got a tank vent. Next time you run the engine pull the tank cap off and listen for it to suck in air as you do it.
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jpindy3

posted on 17/6/09 at 09:26 PM Reply With Quote
thanks lads and ladets,cam timing to be honist i have not done that yet,i have a vernier,what tools will i need do i need some kind of guage??
do you think the cam timing could move atall,the engine is new i got it from vulcan.


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Originally posted by RichardK
I wouldn't worry about the gaps, they've just probably bedded down, have you checked your cam timing, have you got a vernier pulley or the standard ford cast item? Reading some of your recent posts I would really try and get some proper bike inlet rubbers and not use normal silicon hoses as the vacuum created when in use causes the walls of the tube to be sucked in and out which is why they gradually come off, glueing them on isn't going to be successful imho. Last thing you need is an engine fire mate.

You'll find the megajolt alot more stable and just give it lots more advance and start with a simple 2d map, I can send you mine over if you like.

Just a couple of bits there, when you get these little niggles out of the way I bet you'll have an even bigger grin on your face. We all get niggly little things to sort out, that goes with the territory of owning a car like this I'm afraid. Don't let it get you down, you'll soon get them sorted.

Cheers

Rich


[Edited on 17/6/09 by jpindy3]

[Edited on 17/6/09 by jpindy3]

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DRC INDY 7

posted on 17/6/09 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
Have you got a fuel filter before the fuel pump is it semi blocked with crap from the tank ( I had this problem on route to cadwell park not long back )

Im runing with the standard ignition set up from the sierra tried and tested

standard fuel pump zx6r carbs on boggs manifold and supplied inlet hose 800 miles so far this year





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jpindy3

posted on 17/6/09 at 09:35 PM Reply With Quote
i will check the filter before the pump the last time i looked it had a very small bit of crap in it

one thing i did notice is that the filter before the pump dosnt fill up with fuel it just has a very little bit in,im suprised that it has enuff fuel to run,do you think i should take that filter off?
oh i have a bike fuel pump

[Edited on 17/6/09 by jpindy3]

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ashg

posted on 17/6/09 at 10:52 PM Reply With Quote
if its chucking crap out the carb its usually the timing being out.

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DRC INDY 7

posted on 17/6/09 at 11:25 PM Reply With Quote
no leave the filter on just change it they dont fully fill up with fuel





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MikeRJ

posted on 18/6/09 at 07:09 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
thanks lads and ladets,cam timing to be honist i have not done that yet,i have a vernier,what tools will i need do i need some kind of guage??
do you think the cam timing could move atall,the engine is new i got it from vulcan.


If it's straight from Vulcan I would have expected them to time the cam in for you.

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daviep

posted on 18/6/09 at 09:54 AM Reply With Quote
Silly question but is there a reason you are running a regulator if you are using a standard bike fuel pump?

Davie

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DarrenW

posted on 18/6/09 at 10:15 AM Reply With Quote
Its worth going back to scratch with the timing and rechecking all settings. If nowt else it will be good to get it running ok before switching to megajolt so that you know all is well and have a lumenition kit you can sell on.

I cant remember what carbs you have - some bike carbs can be tricky to get the top diaphragm seated correctly when the tops have been disturbed, i seated mine on a bed of red rubber grease before fitting the tops and have been good since.

I have had a blocked filter before which caused strange running problems, replaced it with a bigger variety (halfords are handy for sourcing replaceable filters as you can go through the boxes and get what you need).

As said in trigger wheel post - does your crank puller have the key fitted? losing that could lead to losing the timing when you take the bolt off.






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