franky
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| posted on 4/12/09 at 11:30 PM |
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3.0 alfa v6 - 24v. Pros and cons
All, a friend is looking at building a kit with the alfa v6, 3.0 24v jobbie. what pros and cons does this have? is it easy to convert to RWD?
To me it seems like a cheap way to 220bhp as std or more with a decent system/injection etc.
Anyone else using one? Oh they do sound great too
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adithorp
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| posted on 5/12/09 at 08:54 AM |
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Pro's... They sound great! Good power and so smooth.
Con's... Electrics are iffy. Prob' a bit heavy for a 7.
Don't know what 'box you'd be able to use. Probably needs an adapter plate.
The 2.4 I had in my 156 had 190bhp but felt like a lot more when driving it. I pulled away from a police VolvoT5 (with blue lights on) with ease once
on the M6; He was after a Merc doing 100+ and I needed to get out of his way (1st+2nd lanes full of trucks). Once I was clear of the trucks I moved
over and slowed and he came alongside, put his thumb up and went.
adrian
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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hillbillyracer
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| posted on 5/12/09 at 08:54 AM |
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The unfinished project I bought has one (but an 8v) & I've seen one in a 7 on here. There's also a regular on here with one in his
"plastic car" & he made the bellhousing for both his & mine to fit it on a Ford type 9 gearbox. I remember reading somewhere about
it being a bit hit & miss whether the crank will be machined to take a pilot bearing as the Fwd cars dont need one.
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gottabedone
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| posted on 5/12/09 at 10:33 AM |
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Pro's : sound  noise  bark
as for cons: it's a bit big, a bit heavy.
not as high as you may think on power but these are a torquey motor which makes for some nice acceleration.
...it's all relative though as there are some that refuse to move away from the driven path (excuse the pun).
Personally I think it would be wicked in a seven, it's more work and meand breaking from the mould.
but remember ba11s to the wall driving isn't everything and you could enjoy the exhaust not for the other 90% of the time
Steve
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franky
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| posted on 5/12/09 at 10:37 AM |
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The later ones are 220bhp, so with aftermarket injectors it should be a cheap/reliable 250bhp and weigh less than a pinto
He's looking at what kits it will fit in unless anyone has any ideas.
the motors are very reliable, its just the electrics that play up however in a kit thats not really the issue.
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NeilP
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| posted on 5/12/09 at 11:05 AM |
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John Moore (jonmoore() has one in his Viento I believe and loves it big time!
I have an even bigger anchor and but love that just as much - the exhaust orchestra and the torque make even pootling a joy...
If you pay peanuts...
Mentale, yar? Yar, mentale!
Drive it like you stole it!
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RazMan
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| posted on 5/12/09 at 05:33 PM |
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You could consider a Duratec V6 which might prove a little cheaper and easier to mate up to a RWD. Mine is the ST200 which gives a healthy 230bhp
(with an aftermarket ECU) and bags of torque.
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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franky
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| posted on 5/12/09 at 06:40 PM |
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He looked at them but they don't sound the same!
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phil clegg
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| posted on 5/12/09 at 10:35 PM |
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alfa v6
im building one using the 12v engine,bit less power but all same fitting problems ,this is quite easy to wire up with a complete engine /ecu loom
,later ones are fly by wire like most cars nowadays bit more involved but the information is available on the stratos forum,i am using a bmw
box,smaller and cheaper than a ford,there is no inline alfa box,the75 had the transaxle which i put in my last conversion,call for more info or for a
look,forgot ,fits in haynes chassis easy .weighs simillar to pinto all alloy block and heads phil 01254382963
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Fred W B
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| posted on 6/12/09 at 07:50 AM |
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quote:
He's looking at what kits it will fit in
Don't they go in Stratos reps? that would be my choice
Cheers
Fred W B
You can do it quickly. You can do it cheap. You can do it right. – Pick any two.
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Markymark
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| posted on 7/12/09 at 05:43 PM |
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There is a guy on here putting one in a Dax Rush. Not sure on his name but have a look at his build site (alfadax.com)
From what I'm told the 24v are a bit more fragile than the 12v
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franky
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| posted on 7/12/09 at 05:59 PM |
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I've pointed my mate in that direction.
Think he's going to look for a unfinished dax as they're bloody expensive new!
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