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Tommy P

posted on 22/1/10 at 06:04 PM Reply With Quote
What are these holes?

OK I've got the 1.8 K series VVC engine to mate up to the type 9 box and on recommendation have got the flywheel from a 1.4 or a 1.6 to put on it. Where the clutch plate has been engaging(the shiny bit)measures 200mm so I think its a 1.6 flywheel. My question is that on the back of the flywheel there's a circle of holes with four elongated sections spaced specifically apart. All are connected via a cut out chanel where a sensor sits as the flywheel goes round. Is this for the rev counter or something else.
There not the holes for balancing the flywheel as these are quite obviously visable.

PS
has anyone ever made an adapter plate to mate the type 9 bellhousing upto a K series engine?
The bellhousings for conversion are quite expensive, so wondered is it could be done via a conversion plate.
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stevec

posted on 22/1/10 at 06:08 PM Reply With Quote
They are for the crank position sensor. It lives under the inlet manifold at the back of the cylinder block. the cutouts in the flywheel are the missing teeth that tell the ecu crankshaft position, There is a picture of my conversion in my archive.
Steve.

linky to picture

[Edited on 22/1/10 by stevec]

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Tommy P

posted on 22/1/10 at 07:01 PM Reply With Quote
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So do flywheels from different models ie i.4, 1.6 and 1.8 have different configurations of the holes and slots. Does this affect which ecu is used.

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britishtrident

posted on 22/1/10 at 07:07 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tommy P
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So do flywheels from different models ie i.4, 1.6 and 1.8 have different configurations of the holes and slots. Does this affect which ecu is used.


No it is a security measure to prevent the ringing of stolen cars the flywheel reluctor pattern is unique to each individual engine. The engine ecu and the security ecu have to be programmed for that engine and each other.

[Edited on 22/1/10 by britishtrident]





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stevec

posted on 22/1/10 at 07:16 PM Reply With Quote
The 1.8 I have has the teeth on the outside of the flywheel and the crank sensor is in the gearbox bellhousing. It would be good if you could keep yours all original I think.

Steve

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Tommy P

posted on 22/1/10 at 07:16 PM Reply With Quote
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So putting a different flywheel on messes things up a bit then. Will this make the ecu and key fob and the other bits I have on the wiring loom useless then, unless I have them reprogrammed?

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marcjagman

posted on 22/1/10 at 07:47 PM Reply With Quote
Stevec, I do like that mating plate you made
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stevec

posted on 22/1/10 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
Have you got a picture of your original flywheel?
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Tommy P

posted on 22/1/10 at 09:19 PM Reply With Quote
No I didnt get the flywheel with the engine,would it help If I could find out what pattern it was?
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britishtrident

posted on 23/1/10 at 08:25 AM Reply With Quote
The differences is the reluctor ring pattern cannot normally be detected by eye. The way round it is to get the ecu's security system doctored how easy this is depends on version of the MEMS the ECU is.





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stevec

posted on 23/1/10 at 02:21 PM Reply With Quote
I think you really need to have the original bits to be sure it will run properly.
Dont know if Megasquirt could be used on that engine but may be an option.
Steve.

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