RichardK
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Damn Sump still leaking
Spent all last Sunday afternoon under the bloody car, fitted the gasket properly, or so I thought, front and rear rubber seals with a bit of sealant
in the corners, gasket fitted and then the sump bolts done up in the correct sequence,fresh cheapo oil, ran engine for 20 minutes idling and then
retorqued the bolts. Quick blast and put it away with newspaper under the sump, checked the following evening and not a drop  Today, changed the
oil for the expensive stuff and oil additive and stuck on a new filter for good measure. Quick blast about 20 miles and I've noticed spots on
my garage floor again.
Will be re torquing them tomorrow but does this sound normal. If the re torquing doesn't sort it, its going to the garage to get done,
haven't got all the gravel out of my back yet from last week.
Normal or unusual?
I've also seen some race spec gaskets which look like they are made out of compressed paper which can be clamped tighter apparently. Any
good??
Cheers
Rich
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jacko
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| posted on 20/2/10 at 10:45 PM |
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You may of over tightened the bolts and cut the cork gasket 
Is your sump twisted ? after welding it ?
Where is it leaking at the back could it be the crank oil seal ?
Graham
[Edited on 20/2/10 by jacko]
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RichardK
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| posted on 20/2/10 at 10:51 PM |
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Don't know to be honest, came inside in a strop 
Don't think I did them that tight. I'll see tomorrow..
Those special gaskets here
Cheers
Rich
[Edited on 20/2/10 by RichardK]
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coozer
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| posted on 20/2/10 at 11:08 PM |
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And theres me, he he, spotted two leaks, drained the oil, identified two pin holes, brazed them up, new sump plug and guess what? It still leaks form
the same spots!!
What a laugh!
Bloody thing can wait till next winter now by jove
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1980 Z750
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mookaloid
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| posted on 20/2/10 at 11:17 PM |
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Feel for you there matey
Is it definitely engine oil - not gearbox oil?
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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RichardK
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| posted on 20/2/10 at 11:25 PM |
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Yep, pretty sure as it seems to be leaking more than it did before
R
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ashg
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 12:37 AM |
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are you using a gasket out of a cheep motor factor kit or a proper ford one?
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
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dhutch
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 01:14 AM |
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gash!
that said, it hisses out of mine, and the dipstick, and rear axle....
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bimbleuk
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 06:10 AM |
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I don't have the luxury of a gasket on my Toyota engine. So I have to stick the windage plate on with sealant then the pan after that. If I do
get a small leak I have simply put silicone sealant along the join and that has been enough to stop it in the past.
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snapper
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 07:31 AM |
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I have had leaks from the bolt holes.
Ran sealant round the bolt holes on the sump and all round the sump lip stuck the gasket on and left to set.
Cleaned the engine block sump face with spirit, dried it, coated with sealant again round the bolt holes and face and nipped up not to tight, leave to
set.
Remove some bolts, coat head with sealant, nip up leave to half set, torque up.
I mad sure the crank seals were coated properly and the anoying little seal blocks were inserted properly when i fitted the rubber half moon seals.
(Pinto)
Check your engine breathers, if you get sump pressure the oil will find its way out somewhere
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 07:55 AM |
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On the 1st pinto engine the sump gasket was cork i always seal both sides of the gasket before fitting
on the new engine i have just built i used the burtons heavy duty gasket the same as your link it is compressed paper type material that again i
sealed both sides with silicone sealant then leave to set before adding oil
ps im useing a alloy sump from westfield cars
pps lots of bloody snow coming down as i type this
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 08:37 AM |
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If it's any help I used the heavy duty type gasket set on my X flow engine and re used the same gasket when I rebuilt the engine, haven'
had a drop leak from the sump which is going some for a Xflow.
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Macbeast
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 09:12 AM |
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Check first -
Is the replacement oil filter done up - sealed ?
Drain plug ditto
Are you sure it's not just spilled oil trickling down the block ?
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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splitrivet
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 09:57 AM |
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I would have thought a cork gasket would give more compliance than a thinner paper one. Are you 100% sure it isnt off of oil seals a crack in the
sump, dizzy seal or rocker cover etc and running down the engine.
Cheers,
Bob
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RichardK
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 10:19 AM |
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Really snowing here so won't be getting it outside to put up on ramps today
I'll let you know how I get on.
P.S Don't know if it was cheap one but it was from a motor factors and was about a tenner so about right in money but obviously don't know
what they bought it for!
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jacko
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 10:45 AM |
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A daft one but you nipped the sump plug bolt ?
Snowing in Kingston upon Hull too
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RichardK
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 10:51 AM |
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Yes mate... But will check
Cheers
Rich
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RichardK
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 11:16 AM |
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So what would cause the filler cap to blow off and cover everything in oil?
Going to start mopping up the mess now
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austin man
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 12:00 PM |
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it not the crank seal thats leaking is it ?? Have you identified a point from where the drip is comming from. We had a problem on a Zetec oil leaking
from 2 points on the sump as we thought . the actual problem teurned out to be a camshaft seal and oil was making its way around the block due to
airflow when moving and from the fan. Changed the cam seals and job done
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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RichardK
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 12:25 PM |
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Schoolboy error? I filled the oil when it was on the drive, which has a slight gradient, so I could have put a little too much in it, I would have
thought it would have blown the excess oil into my bottle which is nearly empty.
I've emptied the excess out which is 500ml
Mmmm, quite alot! Schoolboy error or senior moment?
Hopefully that all it was but can't take it for a run because of the snow, so laters...
On the positive side, my engine bay now looks like new
Cheers
Rich
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 03:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RichardK
So what would cause the filler cap to blow off and cover everything in oil?
Going to start mopping up the mess now
Excess crankcase pressure, if your lucky it could be just a blocked breather if not it may be worn piston rings bores etc
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RichardK
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 04:43 PM |
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I'm hoping its just because I over filled it with oil, what do we think? Possible? I checked the crankcase breather and its fine no blockage.
If bad news I'll just have to rag it until it dies then do the duratec conversion a bit earlier!
Cheers
Rich
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