nib1980
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 04:51 PM |
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4age stripdown part 3 (now its stuffed)
hi all,
well i'm not sure what happened but pt basically i now need
a new crank
new crank sprocket
new oil pump
new oil pump case
lets just say i shouldn't have got working on it before i was feeling better.
any one know any good sources f parts?
i believe they are from a AE86
many thanks
goping for a cry now,
bye
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flak monkey
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 04:55 PM |
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oops what happened? 
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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nib1980
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 05:00 PM |
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gear puller didn't work and the pulley snapped, so i decided to gringd the rest opff, and guess what the grinder slipped aND Has trashed the
crank and oil pump.
lets just say i'm poorly and making bad decisions
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deezee
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 05:01 PM |
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Sounds like it got dropped!
Some new parts can come from Toyota if you know the part number. I own an MR2 and they still provide parts for the car. The MR2 owners club could
help. If not you could try RAW, although after the owner retired I'm not sure at what capacity the business is still running.
Fensport do many parts, but I think its mostly upgraded parts. They should be able to help you though.
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nib1980
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 05:14 PM |
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if i'm looking for a new engine, what engine is the same? and MR2 mk 1?
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blockhead_rich
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 05:20 PM |
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BTW
Mel @ RAW has not retired just yet!
Probably cheaper to get a replacement 2nd hand engine IMO.
Rich
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deezee
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 05:24 PM |
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What revision is your 4AGE? The MR2 MK1 came with a standard and supercharged engine, not sure which revision it was though. Thats probably your
best source for a cheap engine. I think your then onto super desirable AE86 and imported models.
Just to make you all feel sick, I was doing some work at Toyota engine plant in Deeside last summer. I noticed they had around 16 late revision 4AGE
sitting on the shelf along with unused T50 gearboxes.
"Old stock, been here years" they told me.
"Awesome, I'll take one, please" I replied
"Can't I'm afraid, we classed them as scrap to avoid tax on our assets"
I then had to watch them put them into a skip to be melted down, for tax reasons? Couldn't even persuade the forktruck operator to sell one to
me.
[Edited on 21/4/10 by deezee]
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bi22le
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 05:29 PM |
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Yep Mel is still at RAW I spoke to him yesterday. He has only just come back from an op (I hope he dont mind me saying).
Toyota do supply parts for these engines still as mentioned above and if you only want to go for parts then go direct other than that check the JPSC
web site. I think there is an engine for sale on there a silver top.
This does not look too good for my soon to be purchase (black top 4age Striker). Lets hope mine lasts longer!
Track days ARE the best thing since sliced bread, until I get a supercharger that is!
Please read my ring story:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/13/viewthread.php?tid=139152&page=1
Me doing a sub 56sec lap around Brands Indy. I need a geo set up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHksfvIGB3I
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nib1980
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 05:40 PM |
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apparently this was from an AE86, hence me being so pissed off.
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nib1980
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 05:50 PM |
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would a 20v crank fit a 16v engine?
or could i make the 16v exhaust and inlet fit the 20v?
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cs3tcr
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 05:59 PM |
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Is the block a 3 rib or 7 rib? Also, what are the bearing journal sizes?
If its a 3 rib, then look for a 4AG out of pre-87 MR2s and AE86s. If its a 7 rib, then any post 87 should work for the crank. As for the oil pump
and pulleys, these will fit any years, but try to source a later oil pump ("red top" or 20 valve).
I've got a spare block, oil pump, pump housing, f'ed crank, rods etc. You could have them for free, but shipping would be a little
expensive.
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Werner Van Loock
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 06:37 PM |
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as long as it isnt the desireable phase 3 16valve (aka small port) as those are expensive and very hard to find.
And i know as i have one of those and would like a spare one.
http://www.clubstylus.be
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JimSpencer
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 06:57 PM |
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Hi
If its from an AE86 it's the phase1 4AGE, basically the same as the one in the Mk1 MR2, certainly for the bits you need.
Be best to get hold of a complete engine and they're normally easy to get from the normal online auction site or use Findapart or similar.
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nib1980
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 07:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JimSpencer
Hi
If its from an AE86 it's the phase1 4AGE, basically the same as the one in the Mk1 MR2, certainly for the bits you need.
Be best to get hold of a complete engine and they're normally easy to get from the normal online auction site or use Findapart or similar.
thats good news, well best i've had today!
many thanks
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Canada EH!
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 07:45 PM |
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Ebay USA, lots of 4 AGE parts listed for AE86.
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COREdevelopments
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| posted on 21/4/10 at 09:10 PM |
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quote:
Just to make you all feel sick, I was doing some work at Toyota engine plant in Deeside last summer. I noticed they had around 16 late revision 4AGE
sitting on the shelf along with unused T50 gearboxes.
"Old stock, been here years" they told me.
"Awesome, I'll take one, please" I replied
"Can't I'm afraid, we classed them as scrap to avoid tax on our assets"
I then had to watch them put them into a skip to be melted down, for tax reasons? Couldn't even persuade the forktruck operator to sell one to
me.
[Edited on 21/4/10 by deezee]
felt sick reading that!! shame on you for not steeling them!!
Rob
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nib1980
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| posted on 22/4/10 at 09:26 AM |
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well i've just picked up a complete mk1 MR2 engine for £150 so fingers crossed i can put the 2 together.
many thanks
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COREdevelopments
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| posted on 22/4/10 at 08:25 PM |
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Good luck this time, and keep the angry grinder away from the engine at all times!
Rob
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The Knobs
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| posted on 22/4/10 at 10:40 PM |
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I have got a suitable engine in an early MR2 that would suit you. Forged pistons, Kent cams, Jenvey TBs, Omex 500 and comes complete with a very
decent MR2 if you wanted. Make me an offer as it needs to go anyway.
I have had many a 4age and am now using a supercharged 20v in my Striker and must say that they are a very good strong little engine.
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