loggyboy
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| posted on 30/4/10 at 09:00 PM |
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Duratec to type9
Am i right in thinking Duratecs dont bolt straight up to type 9s?
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scootz
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| posted on 30/4/10 at 09:03 PM |
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They will with the right bellhousing.
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austin man
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| posted on 30/4/10 at 09:10 PM |
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so that will be a no then
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scootz
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| posted on 30/4/10 at 09:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by austin man
so that will be a no then
No engine will bolt straight onto a Type 9 gearbox... it will need a suitable bellhousing whether it's a pinto, zetec, duratec, etc.
So to answer again... a Duratec WILL bolt up to a Type 9 box if you use a Duratec to Type 9 bellhousing!
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dhutch
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| posted on 30/4/10 at 09:38 PM |
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Yeah, its will bolt up as well as zetec. Using a suitable belhousing
- However, unlike a zetec, there is not a oem bell housing that is suitable so you have to go down the route of an after market belhousing. Which
does as to the cost clearly.
Basically, the duratech is a Mazda engine. Hence doesnt use the otherwise fairly standard ford bolt pattern.
Daniel
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loggyboy
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| posted on 30/4/10 at 09:59 PM |
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Would a zetec require an aftermarket bellhousing?
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scootz
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| posted on 30/4/10 at 10:09 PM |
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A Zetec will work if using a Sierra bellhousing (pre-89). I've never done this, but understand that one or two of the bolt holes are redundant.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 30/4/10 at 10:57 PM |
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The Zetec, having its roots in the CVH, is the last of the standard ford 4 cylinder bellhousing pattern.
All the newer engines are no longer done to this standard pattern.
Can't imagine that any future Ford engines will be to ye olde traditionale Ford pattern.
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SteveWalker
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 11:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by austin man
so that will be a no then
No engine will bolt straight onto a Type 9 gearbox... it will need a suitable bellhousing whether it's a pinto, zetec, duratec, etc.
Almost right, but apparently not quite - from what I've read, some late type 9 boxes had an integral bellhousing, so *would* bolt straight on to
pintos, zetecs, etc..
[Edited on 1/5/10 by SteveWalker]
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scootz
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 01:08 PM |
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Never seen one of them... every day's a school-day!
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FASTdan
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 03:01 PM |
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I can recommend RWD motorsports bellhousing pretty sure its cheaper than the above price by quite a bit. Bloke who runs it is a nice chap too, very
helpful.
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prawnabie
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 03:40 PM |
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Talk about making a simple problem even more confusing!
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FASTdan
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 09:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by prawnabie
Talk about making a simple problem even more confusing!
LOL yes I would agree, some people are being a little bit pedantic.
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scootz
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| posted on 1/5/10 at 10:34 PM |
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Well... lets look at the original question...
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
Am i right in thinking Duratecs dont bolt straight up to type 9s?
As there has been no mention of what type of bellhousing loggyboy does or doesn't have, then there is only one answer...
Yes it will... with the right bellhousing!
I have owned several Type 9's... some of them came without bellhousings... some with... one of them would have bolted straight up to Duratecs...
others wouldn't... conversely, one wouldn't bolt straight up to an Xflow, Pinto or Zetec... others would!
To answer the question, then you have to understand it, and on this occasion the question was lacking sufficient clarity to answer with a simple yes
or no!
Do I assume that loggyboy has 'X' type of bellhousing??? Do I assume that loggyboy even knows that Type 9's need a bellhousing to
mate to the engine in the first place???
Just trying to be helpful!
[Edited on 3/5/10 by scootz]
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 04:01 PM |
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type 9 has seperate bell housing mt75 box is integrall
Rally design do duratec to type 9 bell housings for £168 which seems good value i may go this route in the winter upgrades
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loggyboy
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 08:54 PM |
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It seems my wording confused the matter a little.
What I should have said is 'does the zetec/duratec bolt to a standard type 9 bellhousing.
As for which I do or dont have, the answer is none yet. Im looking at options and the current fave is a blacktop zetec mated to a type 9. Which I
trust means it will mount to a standard type 9 bellhousing.
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scootz
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 09:04 PM |
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Do you mean the Sierra Pinto bellhousing when you say 'standard' Type 9 bellhousing?
If so, then the Zetec engine will bolt up to it (couple of bolts won't match, but it's not a problem).
The Duratec engine will not bolt up to it.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 3/5/10 at 09:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Do you mean the Sierra Pinto bellhousing when you say 'standard' Type 9 bellhousing?
If so, then the Zetec engine will bolt up to it (couple of bolts won't match, but it's not a problem).
The Duratec engine will not bolt up to it.
Thats exactly what I meant
Thanks to all
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mrwibble
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| posted on 4/5/10 at 12:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Do you mean the Sierra Pinto bellhousing when you say 'standard' Type 9 bellhousing?
If so, then the Zetec engine will bolt up to it (couple of bolts won't match, but it's not a problem).
The Duratec engine will not bolt up to it.
can i hijack this thread and ask if the type 9 used with a cvh in the sierra will have the same bell housing? surely fords crack team of accountants
wouldn't of wasted money on having 2 different for the sierra?
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loggyboy
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| posted on 5/5/10 at 09:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mrwibble
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Do you mean the Sierra Pinto bellhousing when you say 'standard' Type 9 bellhousing?
If so, then the Zetec engine will bolt up to it (couple of bolts won't match, but it's not a problem).
The Duratec engine will not bolt up to it.
can i hijack this thread and ask if the type 9 used with a cvh in the sierra will have the same bell housing? surely fords crack team of accountants
wouldn't of wasted money on having 2 different for the sierra?
I believe its age related, IIRC the CVH was a later engine menaning it bolted to the MT75 gearbox. (dont quote me, just what ive read here:
http://www.burtonpower.com/technical_1/mt75_gearbox.aspx)
however, bolt patterns should all be the same anyway.
[Edited on 5/5/10 by loggyboy]
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g13nny
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| posted on 14/5/10 at 07:58 PM |
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can i hijack this thread too please? sorry all but after reading i got confused but looks like i will get the info i need from you
i have a euro nova and after you all laughing lol it has a beetle transmision with a pinto adaption, i bought the car without engine and i am trying
to find out what other engines i can use before i decide which one to buy
why did i buy this?
im sure it will be finished some day lol
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