Hugh_
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 posted on 9/8/10 at 11:03 AM |
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Pinto clutch release bearing gone :(
Thought it looked like a nice enough day to bring the car into working this morning. Anyway got most of the way in, slowed for a speed bum, and as I
depressed the clutch it went to the floor.
Initially thought I'd snapped the cable or it had come off the arm, but alas it soon became apparent the clutch was still engaged so I'm
assuming its the clutch release bearing. Managed to limp it into work crawling towards all red lights until they went green.
The clutch arm is loose floppy from the engaged end of its travel to 1" before the disengaged end, and cant be moved beyond that (even with a
hammer)...
Save for the obvious problem of getting the car moving and wear on the syncros, am I going to do any other damage if I drive it home (19miles) sans
clutch?
Also can anyone recommend where to get an uprated clutch kit for a pinto to type 9?
Cheers
Hugh
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 9/8/10 at 11:19 AM |
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I'm working on my pinto's clutch setup just last night and tbh I can't see how the bearing can fail and not shred the fingers off
the clutch plate. Perhaps the pin at the other end of the actuating arm has popped off, they tend to wear quite a bit over time, lack of lube. If you
pull the rubber boot off you can see quite a bit inside the bellhousing.
maybe you could fit the flywheel and clutch off a 2.8 v6 as that is quite a bit bigger (I have that too), I'm just not sure if the dowels will
be the same though.
[Edited on 9/8/10 by Mr Whippy]
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mookaloid
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| posted on 9/8/10 at 11:57 AM |
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you can drive a car without using the clutch - provided it is actually engaged and stuff isn't getting mangled inside the bellhousing - (you
would hear it if there was something loose on there)
the technique is to start the car with it in gear and be prepared for it moving off as soon as you turn the key.
you can then change gear by matching the revs with the road speed. if you have to stop then knock it into neutral as you pull up. to restart repeat
the above.
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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pajsh
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| posted on 9/8/10 at 12:01 PM |
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I snapped my clutch cable a few weeks back and spent 1/2 hour driving round trying to decide how to get home without getting stopped. A couple of
tractors and a T junction nearly knackerd me but I made it to a mates where we botched it up to get me home.
I thought that if I stopped, that would be it so I'm interested to know how you are going to get started if it is fully engaged.
Edit...Too slow:-(
Ahh now I see. I was going to try that but not sure if it would have worked.
[Edited on 9/8/10 by pajsh]
I used to be apathetic but now I just don't care.
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Hugh_
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| posted on 9/8/10 at 12:10 PM |
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Thanks for the thoughts guys. It has only done 850miles on this engine/gearbox/clutch so suspect a manufacturing fault with the release bearing. But
as mentioned it could be the pin has come loose.
Whilst the engine is out it makes sense to change the lot though, though Im not sure I can be bothered with the hassle of trying to fit the V6's
clutch.
I limped it the last 4 miles into work this morning after it went, rev matching to change gear which isnt a problem, with no nasty noises, and
fortunately didnt have to stop but managed to creap towards red lights at idle in first (fortunately it doesnt have a long first...) until they went
green. I have a high torque starter motor so as long as I take a route which shouldnt involve hill starts I should be fine!
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omega0684
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| posted on 9/8/10 at 12:40 PM |
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AP uprated clutch release bearing available from Burton's for about £15
I love Pinto's, even if i did get mine from P&O!
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mcerd1
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| posted on 9/8/10 at 01:07 PM |
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the clutch kit recomended to me was just the std. made by LUK (aparently its what they use on the stock cars)
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omega0684
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| posted on 9/8/10 at 01:18 PM |
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standard pinto clutches are good enough, but its you are increasing torque to 170+ i'd say an uprated clutch is needed
I love Pinto's, even if i did get mine from P&O!
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Hugh_
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| posted on 9/8/10 at 01:58 PM |
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To be fair I havent noticed the standard clutch slipping, but then again I only finished running in and lifted the rev limit from 5.5k to 7k
yesterday...
That said it is 2.1, BV head, GP1 cam, 45s and megajolt so it should be capable of some big (for a pinto) numbers. It made 144hp at 5.5k (at the
flywheel) during its initial setup on the rolling road.
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omega0684
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| posted on 9/8/10 at 04:06 PM |
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is it a proper 2.1 with a 93mm bore or is it a fakey jake with a half mm overbore?
I love Pinto's, even if i did get mine from P&O!
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snapper
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| posted on 9/8/10 at 05:55 PM |
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More than likely what has happened is the thrust bearing has come off the end off the collar, now wedged with the clutch cover fingers, solution is
the longer Capri thrust bearing about £10 ebay
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I drink to forget
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Hugh_
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| posted on 9/8/10 at 09:43 PM |
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It is a proper 93mm 2.1 
I'll get one of the longer thrust bearings.
I'm going to buy an engine crane rather than beg/borrow so as long as there isnt any obvious damage to the fingers I'll try just replacing
the release bearing and see if this clutch is up to the job.
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