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samjc

posted on 18/7/11 at 07:58 AM Reply With Quote
tempting

Im not likely to pick up a road runner for around £2000 even if its been slighty broken down for spares, so im thinking of getting a rolling chassie project but ones i can find and afford are robinhoods so whats the opinions and fact on my idea as ill be 20 nextyear when ill be insuring it so whatever i do a small engine will have to be dropped in
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Dangle_kt

posted on 18/7/11 at 08:34 AM Reply With Quote
Part builts can save lots of cash, or cost a fortune - depends on the standard of the build, and how happy you are to carry on with someone elses build without changing it.

I bought a part built zetec - if I'd have stuck with it it would have been a really good saving, but I didnt, I went BEC, and it cost me significantly more.

Also dont forget IVA is going to cost best part of £1000 when everything is accounted for, maybe more depending on your engine/emissions.

Then you have to buy all the parts that arn't included in the "99.9% complete" kit...

I personally wouldnt want a robin hood, simply because some of the models arn't meant to be very good - so they all have a bit of a stigma. Resale values will be way down.

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wilkingj

posted on 18/7/11 at 08:46 AM Reply With Quote
Robin Hoods had a none too good reputation.

However, I have seen some very nice ones at the shows.
IMHO the original kit parts were not that well finished off. Hence, unless you put a a fair bit of effort in to the fettling and finish of the build, you ended up with a not to brilliant looking car.
Those people that spent the time, rubbing down the sharp edges, and taking time to make the parts fit properly, seem to have ended up with the nice cars.

As far as I am aware there is nothing basically wrong with RH cars, other than the finish of the parts.
OK they might be a bit heavier than a Locost style chassis / body combo.

As you are a Young 'un, definately stick to a smaller engine, say a 1100 or 1300 Xflow, or a 1.4 Metro type engine (expensive bell housing for the metro-Ford box) but does leave you open to the 1.8VVC MGF engines later on. Personally I would stick to Ford, easier and loads of Mondeos etc in the scrap yards etc.

I would put in a sierra box, then you can easily upgrade to a larger / better engine later on when the insurance drops with your age.
ie just makes it a very easy engine change. ie plan ahead!

I am not a RH fan, but I don't see a lot wrong with them. They got a lot of people into kit cars, especially when they had not got deep pockets.

Avoid a Bike engine at your age, the Insurance Co's are wise to the 1000cc Bike engines being mental performace compared to a 1000cc car engine. Well at least check before building anything, as you dont want to complete the build then not be able to afford to insure it.

Plenty of advice and experience on here... So don't feel you cant ask.







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Nash

posted on 18/7/11 at 08:48 AM Reply With Quote
What id your realistic "cash" budget to spend up front? The reason I ask is in my experience buying a box on bits and finishing it is not as cost effective as buying an IVA'd (registered) rough car.

You should get a road runner for less than £4k although it won't be brilliant then you can spend money on making it yours rather than the IVA costs. The grand you'll spend getting it through IVA would go a long way to sorting out a dog.

IMHO

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flibble

posted on 18/7/11 at 09:24 AM Reply With Quote
How about this Sylva Leader tax exempt | eBay ? Tax exempt so £200 a year saved, I seem to remember them having a good reputation (I'd wait for others to confirm that though!). Looks like good cheap fun!
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Irony

posted on 18/7/11 at 09:25 AM Reply With Quote
I started off knowing nothing about kit cars (or any cars for that matter) at the start of my build. I went for a part built car because it seem the best way to get the car I wanted without all of the new build original costs. I bought a Viento V8 that was at the rolling chassis stage with two 'unseen' Rover V8 engines. However in my eagerness I offered the bloke £3500 for the whole lot and he flippin snapped my inexperienced hand off. I was at the time happy with the price as a new (not very comprehensive) full kit was £6700 so I thought the savings were pretty good. In retrospect I paid a £1000 - £1500 to much and I have seen much better part built kits go one ebay for £3000.

Two years later and I am really cracking on with the build - both engines were knackered (rusted through) so I bought a short block of a locoster and rebuilt all the rest myself. Just installing Megajolt and doing the wiring at the moment. Hoping for a first start soon.

Can't tell you how much I have learn't by building a car myself - I have spent lots of money and still have lots to spend but the knowledge I have gained is priceless. Yes I have spent countless nights in the garage but I am still loving it. Someone said to me the other day 'don't understand why your bothering to build a car - what a waste of time when you could just buy one'. This cheesed me off and I said 'Well what have you done in the past two years that is worth mentioning?'. She said 'I've been on 'Come dine with me'. Oh great.

If I could start my build again I would still probably buy a part built car secondhand, but I'd wait a get a steal off ebay. These cars are worth nothing part built. You see cars with adverts saying stuff like 'receipts for 9K asking 3K'. Or I would buy a road registered dog and completely strip it and spend cash on making it a winner.

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