ned
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| posted on 27/11/05 at 01:01 AM |
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xe baffled sump - windage tray required?
I have the sbd/qed/westfield ally baffled sump and having whipped it off an 8v engine i had fitted it to (long story, some may remember back that
far...) I am wondering why I fitted the windage tray as the sump is itseld baffled anyway, both horizontally and vertically so must reduce oil splash
on the crank.
Do I still need to use it? The westfield site is useless as try searching on westfield or xe in the search string and it brings up practically every
post!
cheers,
Ned.
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 27/11/05 at 08:47 AM |
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The guy i got my westfield sump off has the windage tray still fitted too..
Must be a westfield thing 
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skippad
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| posted on 27/11/05 at 10:39 AM |
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Ned
ive got a yukspeed metal sump on mine which ive used without a windage plate for about 5000mls without any probs.
Cars been used on plenty track days with no oil surge problems.
Dave
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NS Dev
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| posted on 27/11/05 at 11:46 AM |
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Best to keep it Ned.
I have run with and without in the past.
I ran the Manta ally big wing sump in a manta (funnily enough!) without a windage tray, and it was fine, no problems at all, but if you can fit it it
is best to. Oil draining back to the sump from the piston sprays etc will get caught up the the crank and can only detract from power. Probably makes
only a tiny difference but best to have the tray if you have the choice, as it will remove the oil clinging to the crank.
I am certainly using one with my cateringvan HPC sump, but then it needs it anyway in that case to keep the foam insert in place!
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Mr G
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| posted on 27/11/05 at 12:34 PM |
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I'd still fit it tbh. Out of interest do you stil have a 8v steel item knocking about (modified or standard)?
Cheers
G
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NS Dev
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| posted on 27/11/05 at 01:30 PM |
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If Ned doesn't then I do have a steel one somewhere.
Ned, any news on the fuel rail mate?
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ned
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| posted on 27/11/05 at 11:27 PM |
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another thing to do argh! fuel rail is in the boot of my car along with ben's dizzy! and mr g's cheque lol.
tried fitting the sump today, had to modify the pickup and need to get some shorter bolts as the thickness of the windage plate and the extra gasket
you sandwich it with makes a difference!
Nat, my steel rods didn't have spray holes in them for the pistons so those drains aren't going to be used. I'm not bothered about
surge as the sujp is baffled, its just the splash but i think it won't make any difference personally and i gain another 5mm ground clearance
without the extra bit of metal and gasket lol.
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/IMG_1503a.jpg
before:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/IMG_1443.jpg
and this weekends progress:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/IMG_1511a.jpg
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/IMG_1514a.jpg
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/IMG_1515a.jpg
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NS Dev
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| posted on 28/11/05 at 12:31 AM |
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Ok, to be honest there isn;t that much oil to catch without the spray holes, but sod the stupid cork gasket with it's spacers and just use the
2.0 SEH engine rubber gasket fitted around the windage tray.
It's a MUCH nicer solution than the "proper" cork XE gaskets and gains back the ground clearance too (lol us XE "ground
clearance" lot!!)
I use the rubber gasket setup on ym grasser now and it NEVER leaks and is so much nicer. Just need to remember to degrease the sump bolt holes and
loctite them because you can't torque them up enough to keep them tight with the rubber gasket, they will only just nip up and you need the
loctite to keep the bolts in place.
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