AlexS
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 01:07 PM |
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gearbox
Trying to drop the replacement xflow in and mate with the 4speed standard box.
Now, i need hints on why the two won't fit together. Clutch has been aligned, and realigned it looks sweet. It goes half way in then will not
budge. The gearbox and engine look level with each other....i dont know any reasons why the two wont slide together
Any suggestions before I end up calling a mechanic out? Been bashing and swearing at this for the last 2 hours now 
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mookaloid
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 01:14 PM |
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Have you put a new clutch friction plate in? Has it got the right number of splines?
If I fit a new clutch I always try the friction plate on the output shaft before fitting to make sure I have been supplied with the right one.
finding out when trying to mate the box and engine that it's wrong is a right pain in the a***
HTH
Mark
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AlexS
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 01:18 PM |
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Using the old clutch, so no chance this have got mixed up...
and I no its a pain ive already got the engine almost all the way in, then taken it out to recheck and realign the clutch and try again 
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Peter Cowley
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 01:19 PM |
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there are 20 and 23 spline plates, mine was a 23 spliner !
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Peter Cowley
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 01:20 PM |
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hasthe new box got more splines tho !
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Peter Cowley
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 01:21 PM |
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oops sory just read its a replacement engine not box !
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AlexS
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 01:40 PM |
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hmmm theres a decent gap on the side of the bellhousing, wondering if i can loosen off the clutch to get it on, and then tighten em up through the gap
once it fitting...long shot but ill have to have a try 
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 01:56 PM |
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Try pulling on the handbrake , put into gear , use a spanner, socket onto crank pulley bolt and rotate engine when pushing towards the gearbox. If the
clutch is aligned and the gearbox to engine gap is even it will go in.
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907
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 02:01 PM |
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Turn engine crank a little with a spanner on the front pulley to align splines with clutch plate?
Paul G
Bugger. I type tooooo slow
[Edited on 2/4/06 by 907]
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MikeR
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 02:04 PM |
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i had this problem - took ages, one of the issues was the splines where not lining up like mentioned i some how fluked teeth to teeth spot on instead
of teeth to gap. twiddled the output shaft and hey presto.
Although getting it really level seems to be the key.
One trick i think we did was to loosen the clutch a smidgen - to allow a little movement, put it on, then pulled it off, tightened the nuts then it
slid straight on.
(does that sound rude or is it just my warped mind?)
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AlexS
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 02:09 PM |
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have tried turning crack, will try while i push engine to clutch (once ive got a spare set of hands to help out)
Also was thinking can reach the clutch nuts thru the gap for the starter motor, so could loosen off clutch, push in and then try to tighten. I can
reach the nuts with a socket...whether i can tighten them is another question altogether
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AlexS
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 03:07 PM |
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Ok tried turning the crank n didnt get anywhere tbh
Also decided cannot tighten clutch while in place, so going to have a breather and try the idea off puttin in while clutch is loose then remove and
tighten the clutch...
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britishtrident
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 03:43 PM |
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(1) take the gearbox out.
(2) Remove clutch
(3) Check the crank spigot bearing hasn't been damaged and is the right size for your gearbox.
(4) Check clutch driven plate fits easily on gearbox splines if not clean and "dress" the splines.
(5) Align clutch woth a proper close fitting RWD alighment tool.
(6) Jack the engine to allow the gearbox to be offered up in a straight on angle.
(7) Put gearbox in a high gear
(8)Offer gearbox into place rocking it gently.
(10) If it dosen't go into place easily try putting the propshaft in to allow you to tun the gearbox by stick a screw driver through the shaft
yoke.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES TRY TO PULL THE BOX IN BY THE BOLTS.
[Edited on 2/4/06 by britishtrident]
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AlexS
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| posted on 2/4/06 at 08:28 PM |
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Hurrah!Its in!10 hours after I started!
In the end, hammered off the bumper to get the engine crane bout 6inches closer, reset the clucth (again) and it just slid straight on. Shatered now
but tomorrow start putting the auxilaries back and be out terrorising the neighbours by the weekend
thanks for all the help guys!  
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