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DorsetStrider

posted on 7/4/06 at 08:32 AM Reply With Quote
SEAT tin top help needed!

Hiya all,

Not entirely sure this is in the right place but if not I'm sure it'll be moved in due course.

I have a 51 reg Seat Ibiza which I've had for 2+ years and has been a fantastic little car. On my way to work this morning the yellow engine management light came on. I've checked the manual which just said to go back to seat (helpful) and after listening to the engine running everything sounds fine.

Does anyone know what the likely cause is or of any known faults?

Any help advice as always gratefully received.





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DorsetStrider

posted on 7/4/06 at 08:36 AM Reply With Quote
Forgot to put the email notification thingy on. d'OH!





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TimC

posted on 7/4/06 at 08:47 AM Reply With Quote
My current Company Car is an Ibiza FR which I've had no problems with. HOWEVER, I did previously have a Passat where this happened and the switch off & back on approach sorted it...

You may hae tried this, just thought as VAG share so many components it might be the same thing?






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DorsetStrider

posted on 7/4/06 at 08:55 AM Reply With Quote
I've already tried this.

Turned off the engine, gave it a few seconds, then turned it back on.... All the warning lights come on, then go off after a few seconds except this one.

The strange thing is we took it for a run last night to s'hampton and back about 100 mile round trip. And she was running fine.





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02GF74

posted on 7/4/06 at 09:01 AM Reply With Quote
isn't there a diagnostic plug you can query?
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nick205

posted on 7/4/06 at 09:05 AM Reply With Quote
The light came ona few months ago on my Leon and likewise, car was running fine. Called Seat who said not to worry and booked it for a week later to check it out. They couldn't find anything wrong, so reset the light and asked me to call again if it came back on - hasn't so far and the car gets a healthy spanking on a daily basis
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nick205

posted on 7/4/06 at 09:07 AM Reply With Quote
Diagnostic socket is usually located somehwere in the back of a storage compartment in the dashbaord, but then do you have a diagnostic reader?
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mackei23b

posted on 7/4/06 at 09:11 AM Reply With Quote
Hi there

I had this problem with my Leon Cupra a couple of times, one was a faulty sender that was replaced by SEAT after the diagnostic test was done, the other time SEAT reset the management system that cleared the fault, (I believe the management system does have some memory of previous faults and can do some self calibration that can lead to errors, so a reset can clear this).

Hope this helps!

Cheers

Ian

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Danozeman

posted on 7/4/06 at 09:12 AM Reply With Quote
Pull the battery cables off and touch them together for a minute. That should reset it. See what happens after that.

Lights sometimes come on for no reason.





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DorsetStrider

posted on 7/4/06 at 09:25 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Diagnostic socket is usually located somehwere in the back of a storage compartment in the dashbaord, but then do you have a diagnostic reader?



Nope





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pajsh

posted on 7/4/06 at 11:46 AM Reply With Quote
I had a similar problem with a Vectra which was the cam and crank sensors. As I understand the Vectra was notorious for this and mine had both replaced.

I was told the light will come on if it registers a fault but if that fault does not reoccur after a certain number of starts (20 or so if I remember) if goes off.

Mine used to be in "safe" mode while the EMS light was on and the revs were limited to 4500. I found this out while trying to overtake a lorry .

Local dealer charged me £25 to plug in the diagnostic box.

Problem is if it goes off then the fault is no longer in the memory and they can't tell you what it was.

Also it will run in "safe" mode on one sensor but if the other fails it's AA time. I found this out coming out of Manchester in the rush hour.





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mark chandler

posted on 7/4/06 at 01:37 PM Reply With Quote
You can buy an ODB scanner to view the faults, a better one lets you reset the system.

I got this one

http://obddiagnostics.com/

Works really well. All cars from around 1995 must be law support this standard for emissions etc.

My advise is get a box to read and reset, then see if the fault re-occurs.

nb/ the fault may not be what you think, as in an alert on low emmisions could be generated because you ran out of petrol... you have to think back to possible causes

Regards Mark

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owelly

posted on 7/4/06 at 07:59 PM Reply With Quote
I have a Vectra that had a recuring fault with the EMW Lamp. It usually went away after a couple of restarts.
the Vauxhall dealer said the only way to fix it was to renew the cam and crank sensors.
I fitted a new battery and the problem went away!!
Some thing to do with the current to and from the battery when it is being charged and the alternator causing spikes.





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ChrisGamlin

posted on 7/4/06 at 08:45 PM Reply With Quote
Mark's advice is the way to go although that particular site is an expensive way to do it if you've got a VAG car, and if your laptop hasnt got a serial port then it can be hit and miss with the USB>Serial adapter leads.

If you do a search on ebay for "VAG-COM" you'll find lots of ODB2 usb leads for about £20. You can then download the VAG-COM shareware version from here and you're away.

Also SeatCupra.net is a good source of info for all things Seat

Chris

[Edited on 7/4/06 by ChrisGamlin]






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britishtrident

posted on 7/4/06 at 10:18 PM Reply With Quote
The advice re getting VAG Com is good

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/alpha-bid/USB-Vag-Com-Cable.html

Equally well you can just get a basic hand held scanner unit that dosen't require a PC connected to it very cheaply --- just make sure it is for the VAG version of the ODN/EOBD protocol --- like this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GS200-VW-Audi-SCANNER-CODE-READER-A3-A4-A6-A8-TT-Q7-S4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ43989QQitemZ4629172637

As for disconnecting the battery to reset on some cars this can cause major problems -- for example on some Hondas and Honda-Rovers it will cause the airbag/SRS light to come on and will need connected to a special Airbag diagnostic scanner to clear.

[Edited on 7/4/06 by britishtrident]

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ChrisGamlin

posted on 9/4/06 at 11:01 AM Reply With Quote
Yep the readers are good too if thats all you need, although I dont think a lot of them can reset fault codes can they, just see them? Also with VAG Com you can do a lot more than just read/reset fault codes, such as set the central locking up so it only unlocks the drivers door with the first press, or automatically locks when you pull away etc, and realtime monitoring of temps, pressures and torque output so you can see what the engine is doing whilst actually driving.






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