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Volvorsport

posted on 31/1/07 at 09:31 PM Reply With Quote
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MikeRJ

posted on 31/1/07 at 09:35 PM Reply With Quote
Doesn't seem too bad at all, are the Getrag boxes easily available?
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Volvorsport

posted on 1/2/07 at 02:07 PM Reply With Quote
most of them come from the big 6 engine - with or without integral bellhousing .

have a look on ebay !! , i think e30, e34 , e12 , and e28 have the big six engines without integral bellhousing .





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Lippoman

posted on 1/2/07 at 05:23 PM Reply With Quote
Volvo gearboxes

Also the Volvo 960 gearboxes (RWD) are a direct bolton for the early aluminium Volvo engines (4, 5 or 6 cyl.). Manual trannies can be rare though...
The old red iron block engines can be made to work amazingly NA with the correct mods... How about 204 kW@7140 and 296 Nm@6100 from a 2.4 l B21...
UNITEK 2.4 B21
Not exactly locost but not overly expensive either.

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Volvorsport

posted on 1/2/07 at 06:45 PM Reply With Quote
oh good , someone else who agrees .

and i know about the whiteblock manual trannies , i keep getting asked to supply them to the states !!!


theyre a bit wide for a normal locost though , and ratios arent as good as a getrag , hence the reason why i went getrag initially .

theres no reason why you cant just stump up £1400 for an M90 at a volvo dealer tho!! , bung a sachs clutch and be good to go .

ive always known how good the b23/b23 is and how much power it can make - thats not the full story in locost of course .





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Memphis Twin

posted on 2/2/07 at 01:19 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by sebastiaan
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Originally posted by Memphis Twin
A friend of mine installed an "SP Performance" race head on his 2.1 Pinto witha Kent RC31 (i think) cam and 48 Dellortos into his hillclimb/sprint Westfield. His power output in the same car, on the same (accurate) rollers as before went from 140 ish at the wheels to 182bhp at the wheels. His rev limit was 7000rpm, but rarely needed to rev that high as maximum power was at 6700.

His time at Harewood hillclimb dropped from a pb of 69secs to 66secs, instantly. These are no-bullshit, tangible,recorded results.

I believe he got his times down even further, and most of the course was completed in 3rd gear; such was the midrange torque. The Dave Brooks head is, if anything, even better. It's the head that's important on a Pinto- the bottom end just has to hang together!

Cheers Chris.


182BHP at the wheels would be around 182*1.15=209BHP=154kW at the crank. To get to that power at 6700RPM, the engine would have to put out 154000/(2*pi*(6700/60))=220Nm (or 162 lb.ft)

Seems improbable to me, since modern (direct injection, variable cam timing, variable inlet manifolds) only just get to these figures at lower engine speeds. In other words: that's a LOT of air to flow through a 2 valve head...


I can't be bothered arguing with you. I saw the head on the flowbench (where it flowed 129cfm at 10"H2O at 13mm lift on the inlet ports) and I was there when it was on the rollers.

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stevebubs

posted on 2/2/07 at 02:53 AM Reply With Quote
Obvious answer surely is Cossie power??

Pinto-based block so same mounts etc.

Just need to squeeze in the turbo running gear...

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Stewie Griffin

posted on 3/2/07 at 07:46 PM Reply With Quote
wut about going to Audi? 1.8 turbo 20v or the 2.0 liter tFSI without the FSI part. the exhaust is on the right hand side.

plus plenty of power





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