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BKLOCO

posted on 8/4/06 at 02:54 PM Reply With Quote
Strange noises.

Now that I have got my engine running to an acceptable standard I have a bit of a problem.
When the engine is idling at about 800-900 rpm there is a fairly loud rumbling/ clanking noise. If I increase the revs to about 1000-1100 it goes. It also goes when I dip the clutch.
I'm thinking gearbox input shaft bearing.
What are peoples thoughts?
It's a standard type 9 box.
What type of bearing is supporting the input shaft? radial ball? single row/double row? pre-loaded?
Anyone got an assembly drawing of type 9?
Thanks in advance for any input (no pun intended )
Brian.





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theconrodkid

posted on 8/4/06 at 03:04 PM Reply With Quote
got oil in t box? remember you have no sound deadening around the engine/box,you will hear all manner of strange noises





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Fozzie

posted on 8/4/06 at 03:04 PM Reply With Quote
Maybe too much free play in the cable? If there is more than about 1/8", it may well be that, try first?
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britishtrident

posted on 8/4/06 at 03:13 PM Reply With Quote
You have got a spigot bearing fitted in the end of the crank ?
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BKLOCO

posted on 8/4/06 at 03:13 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Fozzie, that was my first thought (and RazMans who lives just round the corner) so I spent all morning fiddling (in the nicest possible way) Still the same





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BKLOCO

posted on 8/4/06 at 03:15 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
You have got a spigot bearing fitted in the end of the crank ?


Yes.





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britishtrident

posted on 8/4/06 at 03:16 PM Reply With Quote
You have got a spigot bearing fitted in the end of the crank ?

[Edited on 8/4/06 by britishtrident]

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BKLOCO

posted on 8/4/06 at 03:18 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
got oil in t box? remember you have no sound deadening around the engine/box,you will hear all manner of strange noises


I have definately got oil in the box.
I realise that things are going to be louder but this just sounds wrong if you know what I mean.





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Fozzie

posted on 8/4/06 at 03:28 PM Reply With Quote
Dry spigot? or.....1st motion shaft?





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BKLOCO

posted on 8/4/06 at 04:13 PM Reply With Quote
This is beginning to look like a slight set-back
I have this bad feeling.
Not sure whether to strip it out and investigate or run it till it does something nasty
The engineer in me is winning at the moment and I think I'm going to have to investigate.





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Danozeman

posted on 8/4/06 at 04:17 PM Reply With Quote
Have u driven it yet?

May just be that the oil hasnt got round the box yet to take up any play?





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muzchap

posted on 8/4/06 at 06:09 PM Reply With Quote
Hmm I had a similar noise in an old sierra - years ago - as soon as clutch dipped it went.

Turned out it was clutch release bearing or something like that.

I'd actually do what Danozeman says - take it for a thrash and see if it settles in :p





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NS Dev

posted on 8/4/06 at 06:13 PM Reply With Quote
funnily enough I had the same in my old XR4x4, and that was the clutch release bearing carrier rattling on the trumpet housiing on the front of the box. The lightest pressure on the clutch pedal stopped it.





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trogdor

posted on 8/4/06 at 06:30 PM Reply With Quote
that sounds like the clutch release bearing or something in that area. my car is currently making that sort of noise.

ie it goes when u increase revs or dip the clutch. my dad is certian that it is this and i will be investigating when i take the v4 out to trial fit the zetec i am trying to shoehorn in.

i would drive it for a bit first to see if it does improve as it shouldn't cause any damage. however it will need sorting fairly soon.

hope it isn't anything more than the release bearing. good luck

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flak monkey

posted on 8/4/06 at 06:46 PM Reply With Quote
All the fords I have ever driven (about 4 in total) have had noisy clutch release bearings and most of them havent been more than 7 years old. Its most likely to be that. If it is then really light pressure on the clutch pedal will stop it.

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zetec

posted on 8/4/06 at 09:47 PM Reply With Quote
Mine does a similar thing if I let the revs drop too low, with 800-9000rpm its fine. Drive it and let it warm up and see what happens. Whats the worse that happen?





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omega 24 v6

posted on 8/4/06 at 11:15 PM Reply With Quote
I've got a type 9 rebuild pdf somewhere (I think) U2U me if you want it.
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