myeates
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| posted on 14/12/08 at 05:28 PM |
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zetec or x-flow
hi all
got a 1.3 x-flow in my car at the moment have got hold of a 1.6 zetec that i was planning to put in my car but having second thoughts now due to with
the zetec im going to have to make another bonnet with a bigger buldge as even with chopped sump the gearbox will only allow the engine to be 1 inch
above the bonnet.
i want to make the car more useable with more power and better fuel consumption than im getting from the 1.3 (28mpg). the question is will i get
better performance and economy from the x-flow with injection throttle bodies on it or even with the same on a 1.6 x-flow. without having to change
the car hardly as its how i like it.
thanks look forward to your replies
Mark
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whitestu
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| posted on 14/12/08 at 05:48 PM |
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If you are going to the trouble of fitting a Zetec go for a 2.0, or at least a 1.8.
Should be a lot better than the crossflow.
Stu
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mark chandler
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| posted on 14/12/08 at 05:54 PM |
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There's a few things you can do with your crossflow but it will never make huge power, but that's not to say you could not experiment and
move across.
So throttle bodies and megasquirt will improve things, to transport across to something else is another manifold.
Squirt and spark, the same applies and costs a little more.
Its easy to say junk the engine but it could be more enjoyable playing with what you have, even if the rewards are not huge.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 14/12/08 at 05:58 PM |
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I have a 1600 cross flow running TBs and a few other mods giving nearly 130 BHP . Can't answer your question as to the fuel consumption as
I've never checked it but I reckon on about the low 30mpg on average although it drops drastically if I "use it" .The 1600 would be
a straight fit although approx 1" taller than the 1300, If I was to look at another engine I think the Toyota 4AGE would be a good bet
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UncleFista
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| posted on 14/12/08 at 06:13 PM |
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If it's a "book" chassis, with Type9 and Zetec it WILL fit under the bonnet with no bulge.
It's a squeeze, and you'll need a very low level sump, but it can't be that difficult, we did it 
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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myeates
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| posted on 14/12/08 at 06:26 PM |
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its the standard book chassis but the nose cone is less than 8inch high so is fairly low.
did you tilt the engine slightly at the front at all cos the problem seems to be the cambelt which is an inch too high.
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UncleFista
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| posted on 14/12/08 at 07:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by myeates
its the standard book chassis but the nose cone is less than 8inch high so is fairly low.
did you tilt the engine slightly at the front at all cos the problem seems to be the cambelt which is an inch too high.
Looking at your car, the nose does seem a bit lower than ours, there's literally only a couple of mm clearance on ours, so the nose could make
all the difference ;(
As usual, ignore my last post
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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myeates
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| posted on 14/12/08 at 07:44 PM |
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 thanks for that was going for the nice sleak look maybe should of been little higher  just have to decide if its worth doing or just sticking to
the good old x-flow
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clairetoo
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| posted on 14/12/08 at 08:25 PM |
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I ran a fairly wild crossflow on throttle bodies and distributerless - it made 165 BHP , screamed happily up to 8000 RPM - and would still do well
over 40 MPG on a run (one trip to Exeter show , at an average speed of 78MPH it did 47MPG )
If you go for TB's and a megasquirt all the hardware would be in place should you decide on an engine change later .
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 15/12/08 at 09:39 AM |
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The 1.6 Zetec-E engine is hardly worth the effort to be honest, they are strangled by tiny valves and restrictive ports. A mildy tuned 1.6 crossflow
will easily make more power. The 1.8 and 2.0 are a much better proposition, a standard 1.8 makes from 105 to 130 bhp depending on specification.
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myeates
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| posted on 15/12/08 at 12:36 PM |
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have decided to stick with the xflow for now and play with it i have more knowledge on the xflow anyway, thanks guys
anyone want a 1600 zetec
Mark
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