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ceebmoj

posted on 24/12/08 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
what bikes have single sided swing arms

Hi all,

I have been looking round for a bike engine and single sided swing arm for a trike project. however my knowledge of bikes is lacking so what has a single sided swing arm? other than ducs and bmw k1200 also does any one know of a place that breaks bmws?

also any ideas for any other donas are apreaseated

blake






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coozer

posted on 24/12/08 at 05:28 PM Reply With Quote
Honda VFR??





1972 V8 Jago

1980 Z750

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Jimbob

posted on 24/12/08 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
www.motorworks.co.uk do beemer stuff
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jonno

posted on 24/12/08 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
Yeap Honda VFR's also theres a triumph that does cannot remember which one off the top off my head !!





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r1_pete

posted on 24/12/08 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
Honda VFR750, VFR800, Some triumph Daytona's, Later Triumph Sprint ST, Ducati 748/916/996/998, Bimota's






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jonno

posted on 24/12/08 at 05:33 PM Reply With Quote
And i think that nt650 does

[Edited on 24/12/08 by jonno]





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fesycresy

posted on 24/12/08 at 05:52 PM Reply With Quote
RC 30 sexiest bike ever





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Simon

posted on 24/12/08 at 05:53 PM Reply With Quote
There was also the Yam GTS1000 or whatever it was called - had single sided front suspension iirc. Very, very rare

But not rear



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[Edited on 24/12/08 by Simon]






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Miks15

posted on 24/12/08 at 06:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Simon
There was also the Yam GTS1000 or whatever it was called - had single sided front suspension iirc. Very, very rare

But not rear



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[Edited on 24/12/08 by Simon]


My moped had a single sided front suspension

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Dangle_kt

posted on 24/12/08 at 06:19 PM Reply With Quote
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skodaman

posted on 24/12/08 at 06:58 PM Reply With Quote
Some Aprilia 125's and Beemers and NC30 Hondas,





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jeffw

posted on 24/12/08 at 10:16 PM Reply With Quote
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RC 30 sexiest bike ever


I bought one new in 1988 (£9200 gulp)...sadly had to sell it and have always regretted it. 82mph in 1st gear, slipping the clutch until you hit 35mph, great bike

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thunderace

posted on 24/12/08 at 11:09 PM Reply With Quote
bmw r850r has the best looking set up i should know i have one
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londonsean69

posted on 25/12/08 at 11:23 AM Reply With Quote
The BMW's and the honda Revere (NTV650) are shaft drive, but if you are looking for a single sided swingarm, then I imagine it's going to be 'back to front' compared to normal trikes.

I can't say I like bikes that get converted to trikes, and can't stand those things with a rover v8 nd a bike front end - WTF is the point?

Most trikes I have seen use a shaft drive engine, because then they can use a car rear axle.

The question you have asked leads me to think you are going to have a bike rear end with 2 wheels at the front.

In this case, you 'might' be better off with a standard swingarm, as they flex less.

Even the mighty honda had to acept this when they made the RC51, the follow on to the RC45 (which was the successor to the RC30), and it has a standard (ish being beautifully handmade) double sided swingarm.

I have actually fitted a VFR800 swingarm to my VTR1000 (Firestorm). It weighs twice as much, will probably flex, but looks really smart.
Oh, and it makes the wheelbase longer, so will slow the steering down.

A list I can think of;

A lot of BMW's - mostly shaft drives
TRiumph T955
Ducati 748/916/996/998 (had a 916 at 22!!)
The 999 didn't
The newer Duc (1098)
Honda VFR (750 and 800) - probably easiest to get hold of
Honda VFR400 (nc30)
Honda NSR250 (MC28 the latest one with the smart card ignition)
Honda RVF400 (NC35)
Honda RC30
Honda RC45 (some)
Honda NTV650 (revere) - shaft drive
Aprillia RS50 (too weedy)
Honda Bros (revere but with chain drive)
Bimota (pricey)

If you are lookin to use one to lay the power down, I would suggest using one from one of the sports bikes, as they take a decent tyre, some of these will be too weak for your needs.

Check breakers, and Fleabay, but they can cost a bit as people snap then up. Especially the VFR setup, the late model (800) goes on the VTR pretty easily, as the swingarm actually mounts to the back of the engine, rather than the fram, so you would have to consider that in any build.

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Richard Quinn

posted on 25/12/08 at 02:18 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fesycresy
RC 30 sexiest bike ever
Wasn't that just a VFR750?

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ceebmoj

posted on 25/12/08 at 05:06 PM Reply With Quote
thanks for all the ideas lot more than I would have come up with.

I just like the look of single sided swing arms when the exause is tucked away makes the rear look allot tyder.

I have been using my free time to sketch up some ideas I have been thinking about for along time for a trike that looks like the Indy cycle using the single sided swing arm on the rear and two fount wheels and geting the whole lot to leans for corners. so I was planing on using the engine swing arm wheal and tyer from a common dona having said that I have also considered going with say a cheap 600 to just get a demo of the project up and running quickly.

blake






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Simon

posted on 30/12/08 at 03:15 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw

82mph in 1st gear, slipping the clutch until you hit 35mph, great bike


Hayabusa - 86mph in first, and pulled from tickover - no slipping required. Better bike

ATB

Simon






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jeffw

posted on 30/12/08 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
Twice the cc (near on) and 15 years later.

The RC30 was a homolgation special and had titanium shims, titanium con rods, magnesium alloy engine casings, close ratio racing gear box (hence the slipping the clutch), ceramic brake pads and a carbon fibre fairing. Also featured a slipper clutch and 112BHP as standard and weight 192Kg...in 1988. The firing order is completely different to a VFR750F (360 deg rather than 180) and there are no internal parts that could be swapped between the engines.

Built to win a Superbike World Championship, which it did and then went on to win at Le Mans and at the TT. Holds the outright Bike lap record at the Nurburgring (still !)

Hayabusa is a fast bus in comparision.



[Edited on 30/12/08 by jeffw]

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Simon

posted on 1/1/09 at 02:16 AM Reply With Quote
Jeff,

Don't get me wrong, it was quite innovative at the time, they also did the NR750? with the oval pistons. Think I still have the plastic kit I made of that one!

Yeah, but Hayabusa was a comfy and reasonably cheap (apart from the tyre consumption) old bus

Did you get your lambda bung welded in, or do you still want me to do it?

ATB

Simon

[Edited on 1/1/09 by Simon]






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jeffw

posted on 2/1/09 at 10:30 PM Reply With Quote
Still working on getting the exhaust off (to much else going on !) I'll let you know once the mad rush comences to get the car ready of the next Ring trip/trackday/summer etc

The NR750 is interesting because it was really a V8...Oval ceramic pistons with 8 Valves per cylinder. This was Honda showing off and using the technology they raced with in the early 1980s in the NR500 before the went to 2-strokes.

[Edited on 2/1/09 by jeffw]

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