ceebmoj
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 05:27 PM |
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what bikes have single sided swing arms
Hi all,
I have been looking round for a bike engine and single sided swing arm for a trike project. however my knowledge of bikes is lacking so what has a
single sided swing arm? other than ducs and bmw k1200 also does any one know of a place that breaks bmws?
also any ideas for any other donas are apreaseated
blake
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coozer
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 05:28 PM |
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Honda VFR??
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Jimbob
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 05:31 PM |
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www.motorworks.co.uk do beemer stuff
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jonno
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 05:31 PM |
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Yeap Honda VFR's also theres a triumph that does cannot remember which one off the top off my head !!
having fun on a budget
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r1_pete
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 05:31 PM |
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Honda VFR750, VFR800, Some triumph Daytona's, Later Triumph Sprint ST, Ducati 748/916/996/998, Bimota's
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jonno
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 05:33 PM |
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And i think that nt650 does
[Edited on 24/12/08 by jonno]
having fun on a budget
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fesycresy
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 05:52 PM |
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RC 30 sexiest bike ever
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The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.
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Simon
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 05:53 PM |
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There was also the Yam GTS1000 or whatever it was called - had single sided front suspension iirc. Very, very rare
But not rear
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 24/12/08 by Simon]
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Miks15
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 06:04 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Simon
There was also the Yam GTS1000 or whatever it was called - had single sided front suspension iirc. Very, very rare
But not rear
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 24/12/08 by Simon]
My moped had a single sided front suspension
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 06:19 PM |
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rvf400
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skodaman
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 06:58 PM |
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Some Aprilia 125's and Beemers and NC30 Hondas,
Skodaman
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jeffw
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 10:16 PM |
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code: RC 30 sexiest bike ever
I bought one new in 1988 (£9200 gulp)...sadly had to sell it and have always regretted it. 82mph in 1st gear, slipping the clutch until you hit
35mph, great bike 
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thunderace
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| posted on 24/12/08 at 11:09 PM |
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bmw r850r has the best looking set up i should know i have one 
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londonsean69
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| posted on 25/12/08 at 11:23 AM |
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The BMW's and the honda Revere (NTV650) are shaft drive, but if you are looking for a single sided swingarm, then I imagine it's going to
be 'back to front' compared to normal trikes.
I can't say I like bikes that get converted to trikes, and can't stand those things with a rover v8 nd a bike front end - WTF is the
point?
Most trikes I have seen use a shaft drive engine, because then they can use a car rear axle.
The question you have asked leads me to think you are going to have a bike rear end with 2 wheels at the front.
In this case, you 'might' be better off with a standard swingarm, as they flex less.
Even the mighty honda had to acept this when they made the RC51, the follow on to the RC45 (which was the successor to the RC30), and it has a
standard (ish being beautifully handmade) double sided swingarm.
I have actually fitted a VFR800 swingarm to my VTR1000 (Firestorm). It weighs twice as much, will probably flex, but looks really smart.
Oh, and it makes the wheelbase longer, so will slow the steering down.
A list I can think of;
A lot of BMW's - mostly shaft drives
TRiumph T955
Ducati 748/916/996/998 (had a 916 at 22!!)
The 999 didn't
The newer Duc (1098)
Honda VFR (750 and 800) - probably easiest to get hold of
Honda VFR400 (nc30)
Honda NSR250 (MC28 the latest one with the smart card ignition)
Honda RVF400 (NC35)
Honda RC30
Honda RC45 (some)
Honda NTV650 (revere) - shaft drive
Aprillia RS50 (too weedy)
Honda Bros (revere but with chain drive)
Bimota (pricey)
If you are lookin to use one to lay the power down, I would suggest using one from one of the sports bikes, as they take a decent tyre, some of these
will be too weak for your needs.
Check breakers, and Fleabay, but they can cost a bit as people snap then up. Especially the VFR setup, the late model (800) goes on the VTR pretty
easily, as the swingarm actually mounts to the back of the engine, rather than the fram, so you would have to consider that in any build.
Sean
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 25/12/08 at 02:18 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by fesycresy
RC 30 sexiest bike ever
Wasn't that just a VFR750? 
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ceebmoj
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| posted on 25/12/08 at 05:06 PM |
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thanks for all the ideas lot more than I would have come up with.
I just like the look of single sided swing arms when the exause is tucked away makes the rear look allot tyder.
I have been using my free time to sketch up some ideas I have been thinking about for along time for a trike that looks like the Indy cycle using the
single sided swing arm on the rear and two fount wheels and geting the whole lot to leans for corners. so I was planing on using the engine swing arm
wheal and tyer from a common dona having said that I have also considered going with say a cheap 600 to just get a demo of the project up and running
quickly.
blake
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Simon
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| posted on 30/12/08 at 03:15 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by jeffw
82mph in 1st gear, slipping the clutch until you hit 35mph, great bike
Hayabusa - 86mph in first, and pulled from tickover - no slipping required. Better bike
ATB
Simon
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jeffw
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| posted on 30/12/08 at 04:49 PM |
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Twice the cc (near on) and 15 years later.
The RC30 was a homolgation special and had titanium shims, titanium con rods, magnesium alloy engine casings, close ratio racing gear box (hence the
slipping the clutch), ceramic brake pads and a carbon fibre fairing. Also featured a slipper clutch and 112BHP as standard and weight 192Kg...in
1988. The firing order is completely different to a VFR750F (360 deg rather than 180) and there are no internal parts that could be swapped between
the engines.
Built to win a Superbike World Championship, which it did and then went on to win at Le Mans and at the TT. Holds the outright Bike lap record at the
Nurburgring (still !)
Hayabusa is a fast bus in comparision.
[Edited on 30/12/08 by jeffw]
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Simon
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| posted on 1/1/09 at 02:16 AM |
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Jeff,
Don't get me wrong, it was quite innovative at the time, they also did the NR750? with the oval pistons. Think I still have the plastic kit I
made of that one!
Yeah, but Hayabusa was a comfy and reasonably cheap (apart from the tyre consumption ) old bus
Did you get your lambda bung welded in, or do you still want me to do it?
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 1/1/09 by Simon]
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jeffw
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| posted on 2/1/09 at 10:30 PM |
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Still working on getting the exhaust off (to much else going on !) I'll let you know once the mad rush comences to get the car ready of the
next Ring trip/trackday/summer etc
The NR750 is interesting because it was really a V8...Oval ceramic pistons with 8 Valves per cylinder. This was Honda showing off and using the
technology they raced with in the early 1980s in the NR500 before the went to 2-strokes.
[Edited on 2/1/09 by jeffw]
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