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jpindy3

posted on 18/6/09 at 08:16 PM Reply With Quote
broke down today

well lastnight i worked on the tapit gaps and retimed the crap lumanition and this morning i went out,oh and i put a earth from the lumanition strate to the battery,
it was running fine for a good 2-3hr of on and off driving,i just poped home to drop some bits off and went out again to get some 2core shilded cable,about 3miles from home,it started to loss power 'jurking' so i got it going again and headed for home after 2mins of driving it did it again,after that it wouldnt start atall.
so i got towed home,
i went over the wiring the 10th time,i had another coil so i put that on went around the block and it was fine,when it got up to temp,it ran for a cupple of mins then died,
has anyone had this kind of problem with the lumanition optronic kit?

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speedyxjs

posted on 18/6/09 at 08:19 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry cant help but i hope you get it sorted soon. Must be pretty anoying having just got on the road and cant drive anywhere





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jpindy3

posted on 18/6/09 at 08:25 PM Reply With Quote
oh yes,
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yellow melos

posted on 18/6/09 at 08:30 PM Reply With Quote
Is it that the coil only needs 9volts ???? so breaking down when hot
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melly-g

posted on 18/6/09 at 08:34 PM Reply With Quote
Have you got the right coil?

Is it a 12volt one or one that needs a balast resistor?

If it should have a resistor and you dont have one it will knacker it running 12v continually!

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omega0684

posted on 18/6/09 at 08:58 PM Reply With Quote
get rid of it and get the megajolt in fella!
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02GF74

posted on 18/6/09 at 09:13 PM Reply With Quote
I am not sure exactly which lumentition you have fitted. There are 2 variants, I would need to google to tell you the difference.

I have one fitted in my Land Rover. There is IR optical sensor and chopper disc in the distributor and then 3 wires to the amplifier module.

It works well but the one origianlly fitted developed an intermittent fault - It would cut out at random moments - fixed by replacing the module - the coil and sensor, which I initailly suspected, turned out to be ok.

The instructions state you miust not use ballast coil i.e. your coil should be 12 V not 9 V type.

The way to tell, is to disconnec tall wires to the coil and measure resistance of the primary.

12 V coil will be 3 ohm
ballast coil will be 1.5 ohm.

Despite what people are saying, I am not aware of anything wrong with using this igntion system.

Now that you have broken down, chekc that you have a spark

Remove lead from saprk plug, fit a spare plug and hold close to engine earth.

Remove distributor cap - if you are lucky, the gap in the chopper disc is in between the sensor, if not, you must turn the engine a smige.

Then use a piece of carboard to put in between the sensor and the coil will fire, or it should fire - you'll see a nice fat blue spark.

If not, then remove all plugs and repeat test but turning engine over.

If spark is fine, you need to look eslwehre for your problem.






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jpindy3

posted on 18/6/09 at 09:21 PM Reply With Quote
i have the sliver one,i got the coil to go with it,its the mega spark 4 coil with a balist,
it ran fine then like you say cuts out but it seems when it gets hot
i have checked that it fires,and thats all fine,then i run for a bit and then it stops,
thismorning i ran it for a good 2hr no probs????????
[Edited on 18/6/09 by jpindy3]

[Edited on 18/6/09 by jpindy3]

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ashg

posted on 18/6/09 at 09:59 PM Reply With Quote
sounds like an overheating issue on the coil. the 2 hours running was prob due to the lower ambient temperature in the mornings.





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02GF74

posted on 18/6/09 at 10:01 PM Reply With Quote
just to add what I'd written, now that I have the instruction leaflet.

suitable: for coils or coil/ballast combinations of not less than 3 ohms.

so in other words, you cannot use a ballast coil without the ballast - I hadn't made that clear above.

also not suitbable for low resistance coils -less than 1 ohm electronic igniton coils <--- n/a to you.

the wiring diagram shows 12 V going to igntion switch, then to ballast then to coil.

note that the ballast coil is not switched out in the usual fashion. .... but I cannot see that it would be a problem since that is only switched out during cranking.

I would suggest you check the ballast is wired correctly.

Where have you mounted coil? It helps if it is in a stream of cool air.

[Edited on 18/6/09 by 02GF74]






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bob

posted on 19/6/09 at 07:06 AM Reply With Quote
An old friend of mine had the same problem with a xflow engine using lumenition,after a lot of head scratching it turned out to be a faulty regulator on the alternator.Car ran fine fine when cold but the alt was pumping loads of power all the time playing havoc with the vital electrics.

Worth puting a meter on the battery when running,mates battery was also getting a tad hot






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