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lotusmadandy

posted on 11/7/09 at 05:18 PM Reply With Quote
how much bhp

As per the title lads n lasses
what sort of power can i realisticaly expect to see from the 1.8 zetec i am building.
i am fitting bike carbs and want to source a set of 2 litre cams.I just dont want to decide
next year i want more power than the 1.8 can give me.
Am i better off buying a 2 litre before going any further with the 1.8????

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Andy






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tomgregory2000

posted on 11/7/09 at 05:23 PM Reply With Quote
I dont know what sort of power you will get but one thing i do know is that you will get used to the power and then you will want more.

Just my 2pence

Tommy

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UncleFista

posted on 11/7/09 at 05:23 PM Reply With Quote
With stock injection etc. a 1.8 with 2litre cams should see 130bhp, along with a nice free exhaust and bike carbs I'd guess around 150-ish ?





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joemotion

posted on 11/7/09 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
ive just had my 1.8 ford CVH with bike carbs (1.6 head) on the rollers and got 146bhp out of it - still waitin to get registered so dont really know what that feels like yet?
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handyandy

posted on 11/7/09 at 05:30 PM Reply With Quote
a friend of mine has the 2ltr zetec with bike carbs & megajolt/sqirt thingy, has 165bhp but was told he will get more with a more free flowing exhaust,
personally i,d go for the 2ltr from the start.

andy

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Steve G

posted on 11/7/09 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
I recon you should see 150 - 160bhp so long as you have the higher power / 2L Ford cams. Head work later on will always give you the option for more (but i'd just buy a cheap bare 2L, get the porting and cams done on that, and then do the swap when its all ready - swapping flywheel, water pump, sump, alternator etc over) as the extra capacity is worth an extra 10bhp or so.
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perksy

posted on 11/7/09 at 06:01 PM Reply With Quote
Anywhere between 140 and 160 brake i'd guess (depending on whose rollers you go to)

Whatever you end up with i guarantee you'll want more once you get used to it

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lotusmadandy

posted on 11/7/09 at 06:18 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the advice lads, you are all
of course correct saying i will want more
when i get used to it.
When i built my indy it had a 1.6 pinto.
Though it was quicker than most of the
normal cars i soon wanted more and fitted a 2.0, that went loads quicker
Now i am used to that and still want more,
I suppose i should get a grip and just put the 1.8 in

Andy

[Edited on 11/7/09 by lotusmadandy]






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Stuart_B

posted on 11/7/09 at 06:33 PM Reply With Quote
yes, i have that feeling, i have 1.6pinto on bike carbs and free flowing exhaust, now in teh winter i am going 2.0duartec with bike throtttle boddies i think, so that should be a bit more pokey for me.lol seeing i am going to nearly tripling the horse power with a bit of luck.lol

stuart





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britishtrident

posted on 11/7/09 at 07:31 PM Reply With Quote
Why don't you buy a complete 2 litre now use the cams in the 1.8, and start rebuilding the rest for next year.
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lotusmadandy

posted on 11/7/09 at 07:37 PM Reply With Quote
thats a good idea Trident.I will
continue with the 1.8 build.Good advice
lads i know where i am going now.

Andy






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jpindy3

posted on 11/7/09 at 08:18 PM Reply With Quote
i wouldnt bother with the 1.8 i thort they were 115bhp stock i would put a 2L in they are 130bhp,you could just run that stock as its the power of a mildly tuned 1.8.
then when you want more go for carbs bike carbs are very good, i had some on my vulcan pinto,good on fuel,
but if you want power webers are a little bit in front,
but i would stress just fit a 2L and then you have a good base to tune from

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UncleFista

posted on 12/7/09 at 10:02 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
i wouldnt bother with the 1.8 i thort they were 115bhp stock i would put a 2L in they are 130bhp,you could just run that stock as its the power of a mildly tuned 1.8.
then when you want more go for carbs bike carbs are very good, i had some on my vulcan pinto,good on fuel,
but if you want power webers are a little bit in front,
but i would stress just fit a 2L and then you have a good base to tune from


The RQ 1.8 (from XR3i and Orion Si) has 130bhp, that's only 6 less than a standard 2.0.





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Ninehigh

posted on 12/7/09 at 06:34 PM Reply With Quote
Thing is why stop there? Go V8 and you'll have well more power to start with

If you can get a 2l go for it you'll be cursing yourself mid-overtake and then forever






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paulf

posted on 12/7/09 at 09:43 PM Reply With Quote
I have had both 1.8 zetecs and now a 2 litre.I found the 1.8 fairly quick compared to a 1600 crossflow .I have now fitted a 2.0 blactop which has a lot more torque but is not massively faster than the 1.8 was with 2litre cams fitted ,probably 170bhp against 150 for the 1.8.
Paul

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