thepest
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| posted on 2/8/09 at 09:44 AM |
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Zetec S 1999 1242cc Data
Dear all, I am using one of these engines to get a tiger cat through sva. (SVA in my country is dependent on emissions hence the small engine).
Does anyone have any links to a manual for this engine? Or any other useful info?
Its out of a Fiesta MK5.
Thanks
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Madinventions
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| posted on 2/8/09 at 01:52 PM |
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I've got one of these (1996) in my Mojo running on the standard Ford ECU. It goes like stink, but you'll need to keep the weight down as
much as possible to get the most out of it.
What did you need to know?
Quick video
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Madinventions
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| posted on 2/8/09 at 02:02 PM |
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To actually answer your question however: The Haynes manual covers most of the details for the engine although the typical Haynes inaccuracies are
evident!
I would recommend downloading a copy of the Ford TIS DVD/CD which has some more accurate info.
For info see:
Wikipedia
Power graphs (in a Fiesta!)
Rototest Dyno graphs
Ed.
My build site
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Madinventions
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| posted on 2/8/09 at 02:05 PM |
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And one final thing: If you're going for low emissions, then use the standard Ford ECU to start with. This will need about 50-100 miles of
driving so it can retrain itself for lowest emissions and then you shouldn't have any problems getting through the test. Make sure that all of
your exhaust joints are well sealed and that the silencer doesn't have any air leaks around it as this will mess up your lambda reading for the
test. Once you've passed and on the road, then you can upgrade to Omex/Megasquirt/whatever...
Ed.
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beaver34
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| posted on 2/8/09 at 02:26 PM |
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i run a 1600 zetec se at the moment, i know a fair bit about them so if your stuck give us a shout!
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ss1turbo
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| posted on 2/8/09 at 03:39 PM |
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Can these run on the stock Ford ECU without it complaining about not being in a Fiesta? A friend of mine is looking at using one as an alternative
for a 1300CVH (for a 17 year old, so insurance is an issue)..
The most expensive part of the whole conversion (its going onto type 9) seems to be the bellhousing..or are there some hidden quirks to beware of?
Long live RWD...
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beaver34
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| posted on 2/8/09 at 04:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ss1turbo
Can these run on the stock Ford ECU without it complaining about not being in a Fiesta? A friend of mine is looking at using one as an alternative
for a 1300CVH (for a 17 year old, so insurance is an issue)..
The most expensive part of the whole conversion (its going onto type 9) seems to be the bellhousing..or are there some hidden quirks to beware of?
my insurance at 21 is cheap? compared to a normal car
im selling a bellhousing and exhaust manifold in the next two months as im building a duratec engine, might be some use to you,
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ss1turbo
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| posted on 2/8/09 at 05:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
quote:
Originally posted by ss1turbo
Can these run on the stock Ford ECU without it complaining about not being in a Fiesta? A friend of mine is looking at using one as an alternative
for a 1300CVH (for a 17 year old, so insurance is an issue)..
The most expensive part of the whole conversion (its going onto type 9) seems to be the bellhousing..or are there some hidden quirks to beware of?
my insurance at 21 is cheap? compared to a normal car
im selling a bellhousing and exhaust manifold in the next two months as im building a duratec engine, might be some use to you,
Could be very useful.... Keep me posted..
The insurer was quizzed, and apparently, he's happy (i.e. no increase in premium)with swapping a Ford 1300 engine for any other 1300-ish Ford
engine..so our thinking has now been based on a Sigma engine....bit of a project!
Long live RWD...
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beaver34
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| posted on 2/8/09 at 06:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ss1turbo
quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
quote:
Originally posted by ss1turbo
Can these run on the stock Ford ECU without it complaining about not being in a Fiesta? A friend of mine is looking at using one as an alternative
for a 1300CVH (for a 17 year old, so insurance is an issue)..
The most expensive part of the whole conversion (its going onto type 9) seems to be the bellhousing..or are there some hidden quirks to beware of?
my insurance at 21 is cheap? compared to a normal car
im selling a bellhousing and exhaust manifold in the next two months as im building a duratec engine, might be some use to you,
Could be very useful.... Keep me posted..
The insurer was quizzed, and apparently, he's happy (i.e. no increase in premium)with swapping a Ford 1300 engine for any other 1300-ish Ford
engine..so our thinking has now been based on a Sigma engine....bit of a project!
ill send you some pics, also im insured with 2 gether insurance, there on here, they were cheap
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Madinventions
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| posted on 2/8/09 at 10:12 PM |
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In answer to the question 'Can these be run on the stock ECU' - yes they can. You need to have the original key with immobiliser
thingummy in it, but this doesn't have to be used as your ignition key... you can just cable tie the key to the immobiliser reader from the
donor car. At start up, the ECU will look for the key which it will find (because it's cable tied to the reader!) and the engine will start.
The trick is to keep it all as simple as possible and use as much of the donor car as possible.
Take a look at my build diary for more info:
Click Here!
Ed.
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thepest
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| posted on 4/8/09 at 09:31 AM |
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Thanks for the great replies guys.
Does anyone have a link as to where can I download a copy of the manual from?
Looking at the engine again, I can see that the original starter motor is towards the top of the block. Can I use the original one and cut the
bellhousing? Or would a CVH starter fit on the regular type 9 housing without fouling the engine block?
I am going to be using the stock ecu, I have the whole wiring loom of the fiesta, which bits would I not need or rather should I keep? I am getting
the ECU flashed to remove the immobilizer as I don't have the original key.
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