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jonesier1

posted on 29/8/09 at 04:23 PM Reply With Quote
getting compression back

my car is down on power on the dyno and seems to be a base engine fault.cam timing is correct but compression is low(90psi on a zetec).The engine was refreshed with new rings,head skim and valves reground etc but i stupidly put a good quality oil in and its not allowed the rings to bed in.Any suggestions to get it back to where it should be ?





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westf27

posted on 29/8/09 at 04:47 PM Reply With Quote
did you glaze bust the bores

[Edited on 29/8/2009 by westf27]





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jonesier1

posted on 29/8/09 at 04:57 PM Reply With Quote
yep..





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britishtrident

posted on 29/8/09 at 05:50 PM Reply With Quote
If the low compression is even across the cylinders it is very unlikely to be the rings.


First question did you do the compression test with the throttle wide open ? as a closed throttle would exactly fit your results.

If not it is Cam timing or valve lifter/clearance problem.





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jonesier1

posted on 29/8/09 at 06:29 PM Reply With Quote
test done with throttle wide open and its 90/100 across all 4 .valve timing is correct and lifters are hydrolic





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mark chandler

posted on 29/8/09 at 09:36 PM Reply With Quote
Its the force of the burn that pushes the rings out, so all you can do is a few seconds at full power, 10 seconds off to let things settle down and repeat for a few hours at different engine speeds.

When I did this years ago I drove once around the M25.

Are you sure its leaking past the rings, does it have lots of pressure downstairs, if really bad as you indicate I would have thought on the rolling road the breathers would have been pumping out smoke when running the car up.

Better to check and double check elsewhere IMHO.

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britishtrident

posted on 30/8/09 at 10:40 AM Reply With Quote
The way to be sure is do a cylinder leak down test, Sealley sell two types but it is easy enough to make your own tester, I made one based on instructions off the web using a few odd parts off a knackered compressor and a MIG nozzle tip. Only part i bought was a threaded adaptor for the spark plug hole.


One other thing it could be is tappet jacking best to squeeze down hydraulic tappets before refitting and of course it goes without say only to use 5w/30 oil in a Zetec

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MikeRJ

posted on 30/8/09 at 10:53 AM Reply With Quote
Note that the majority of DIY leak down tester plans I have seen are not true leak down testers, since there is no mention of a calibrated orifice to measure the leakage via pressure drop.
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britishtrident

posted on 30/8/09 at 02:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
Note that the majority of DIY leak down tester plans I have seen are not true leak down testers, since there is no mention of a calibrated orifice to measure the leakage via pressure drop.


That is where the MIG welder tip comes into play it is Araldited into the pipework linking the first and second pressure gauges and drilled to 1mm bore.





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britishtrident

posted on 30/8/09 at 02:24 PM Reply With Quote
good link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leak-down_tester





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