eddie99
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 10:57 AM |
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Zetec Type 9 Clutch Problem
Hi Guys,
Managed to get my engine out this morning on my own with a bit of a stress. Unfortunately managed to be clumsy and pull off some of my engine wiring
plugs. So thats a bugger but nevermind, will order new plugs tomorrow...
Anyway back to the problem. Had a bit of a play with it when the engine was half out. My cable had so much tension it was stopping the clutch arm
returning to its position. I then gave it a bit of a hard nudge and it started working and i thought a new cable would solve the problem. Came inside
to have breakfast, gone back out and dammit. Clutch arm has gone floppy and will move from side to side with no pressure whatsoever.
Going to take gearbox off the engine in a bit. But anyway know whats wrong?
Thanks
Ed
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eddie99
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 11:14 AM |
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Just had a bit more of a play, and its not all floppy. The last 1cm is rock stiff.... Starting to think wrong release bearing maybe?
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lewis
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 11:48 AM |
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What bearing are you using? You need a ctt133 I don't know why it should go loose? Either it would work or not? Hope this helps and I'm
not wasting your time Reading this lol. :-)
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eddie99
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 11:51 AM |
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I can't actually remember, did this part of the build about a year ago. But going to take it apart today and hope that the part number is on the
item?
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prawnabie
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 11:52 AM |
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You can usually tell is the wrong release bearing is fitted when you cannot mate the box up to the engine without using the bolts to pull it in.
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eddie99
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 12:03 PM |
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All i do know is that i got that release bearing from Raceline. So im pretty sure they sent the correct one.... And i dont recall any problems getting
them to mate!
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coozer
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 12:36 PM |
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Got a pic of the release bearing?
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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bob
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 01:52 PM |
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cct133 the ford capri Mk1 1300 1968 on i think.
It should sit about 10mm prouder than the original sierra one thats used on the type 9 but as you said raceline should know whats what.
I've been searching as i'm sure i posted up a pic of the two release bairings side by side.
[Edited on 5/4/10 by bob]
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paulf
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 02:35 PM |
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Im still using the original Siera release bearing, what is the advantage of the cct133?
Paul
quote:
Originally posted by bob
cct133 the ford capri Mk1 1300 1968 on i think.
It should sit about 10mm prouder than the original sierra one thats used on the type 9 but as you said raceline should know whats what.
I've been searching as i'm sure i posted up a pic of the two release bairings side by side.
[Edited on 5/4/10 by bob]
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Danozeman
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 03:11 PM |
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is it the last 1cm going forward thats stiff?? If so sounds like youv got either the wrong bearing or the wrong bellhousing.
I had problems with mine when i first fitted it. I had a p100 bellhousing which is 2 inches or so longer which puts thepivot for the clutch arm too
far away from the clutch. Im tinking 7 inches and 9 inches from gearbox to mounting face.
Dan
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eddie99
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 03:17 PM |
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Ok my bell housing is what i had before! Will post some pics, Just about to take it apart!
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eddie99
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 07:15 PM |
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Here is my bellhousing! Sorry its a bad picture, how can you distinguish the difference?
 
Bellhousing
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eddie99
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 07:24 PM |
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Just hoping someone can see the problem. Some more pics:
 
Bellhousing 2
 
Clutch
Will gradually start taking it apart more tomorrow. Had to slip the engine back in the car now as i have someone doing some welding to fix my exhaust
tomorrow and needs the engine in position....
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coozer
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 07:42 PM |
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Clutch springs look inverted, mine are quite flat compared to that.
What's the cover off?
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Danozeman
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 08:00 PM |
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Them diaphram fingers look way too close to the plate as coozer says. What clutch combo have you got?? Mines 1.8 flywheel with standard mondeo 1.8
clutch.
The bell housing looks like a normal one to me.
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coozer
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 08:01 PM |
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Just been out and studied a spare one I have.
Compared to your pic the fingers on mine are up against the retainer on the outside and about 25mm away from the splines in the plate.
Yours looks as it should when the pedals pressed!
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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eddie99
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 08:04 PM |
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When you say a spare one? One your planning on in emergency or to sell? 
Interesting anyway. Looks like we've found the problem anyway.. I will take it apart tomorrow...
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Danozeman
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 08:04 PM |
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This may be of use
My belhouse trouble.
Dan
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eddie99
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 08:06 PM |
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Thanks Dan, I will have a measure up
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eddie99
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 08:21 PM |
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Is this what i need?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Mondeo-1-6-1-8-Clutch-Kit-NEW_W0QQitemZ230451373792QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item35a7f8e6e0
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coozer
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 09:38 PM |
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Yes, if your engine is within them years and the cover is 220mm???
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dlatch
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 09:47 PM |
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Eddie
i have a spare clutch plate and cover when i picked up a spare starter (can never have enough spares)
its the correct one for the conversion let me check part numbers.
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eddie99
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 10:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dlatch
Eddie
i have a spare clutch plate and cover when i picked up a spare starter (can never have enough spares)
its the correct one for the conversion let me check part numbers.
Let me know please
Coozer: My engine is not within those years but big wasa told me i need a mk1 clutch plate from a mondeo with 220..
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dlatch
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 10:05 PM |
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here is a pic
its the 220mm one which i believe is correct.
what worries me on your old clutch is how have the fingers on the cover been forced in and why? something not right 
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eddie99
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| posted on 5/4/10 at 10:07 PM |
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U2U sent!
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