karlak
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| posted on 18/3/11 at 06:26 PM |
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Engine Shopping List zetec/duratec
After much faffing about I think I will change the Pinto out of the MK Indy.
Looking to do a 2litre Zetec or Duratec transplant really, so am looking for advice especially from people who have done this recently. Obviously the
Engine is required, but what are the other components that I need to look out for, engine mounts, starter motors etc ?
Currently have twin Dellorto 40's on the Pinto, but am really thinking about going for the standard zetec/duratec fueling, again any thoughts?
Also, the "sparks" - I have a megajolt at the moment,, any good for the new engine?
Any prices or guides would be appreciated, along with what I may need to pick up from the scrappy. I am hoping the Pinto, Carbs (possibly, if not
used) and megajolt could recoup some funds.
Loads of questions I know, but I want to get this sorted for the nice weather 
MK Indy - 2litre Duratec - Omex 600 - Jenvey throttle bodies - ETB DigiDash2
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bertie_bas205
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| posted on 18/3/11 at 06:43 PM |
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Well that saved me asking the same question...
2ltr onto a RWD gearbox.... Whats needed?
Bertie.
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austin man
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| posted on 18/3/11 at 07:19 PM |
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The megajolt would be of no use you will need megasquirt, why not but a zetec manifolf and fit the carbs to the zetec as I have done with mine. There
is litte difference between the carbs and injection main difference is MPG possibly at top 5mpg better on an injected engine.
More to go wron and more expensive to fix on injection.
Main things you will need additionally if going injected, ECU, High pressure Pump, Swirl pot, more sophisticated loom, inlet plenum small
alternator.
To keep costs down I fitted an exhaust manifold from a blactopand had a downpipe made (£35.00), fitted megajolt , used sierra alternator on carb side,
Made my own mounts
Had sump cut and welded and modified to side for starter motot to clear, modified steering to clear oil filter
Can get you pics if you want
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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bertie_bas205
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| posted on 18/3/11 at 07:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by austin man
The megajolt would be of no use you will need megasquirt, why not but a zetec manifolf and fit the carbs to the zetec as I have done with mine. There
is litte difference between the carbs and injection main difference is MPG possibly at top 5mpg better on an injected engine.
More to go wron and more expensive to fix on injection.
Main things you will need additionally if going injected, ECU, High pressure Pump, Swirl pot, more sophisticated loom, inlet plenum small
alternator.
To keep costs down I fitted an exhaust manifold from a blactopand had a downpipe made (£35.00), fitted megajolt , used sierra alternator on carb side,
Made my own mounts
Had sump cut and welded and modified to side for starter motot to clear, modified steering to clear oil filter
Can get you pics if you want
Pics would be good......
Bertie.
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mark chandler
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| posted on 18/3/11 at 08:12 PM |
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Pick the engine with the exhaust out the same side, Duratec and save making new holes.
By playing about with exhaust etc you may be able to salvage othert stuff as well.
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austin man
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| posted on 18/3/11 at 08:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bertie_bas205
quote:
Originally posted by austin man
The megajolt would be of no use you will need megasquirt, why not but a zetec manifolf and fit the carbs to the zetec as I have done with mine. There
is litte difference between the carbs and injection main difference is MPG possibly at top 5mpg better on an injected engine.
More to go wron and more expensive to fix on injection.
Main things you will need additionally if going injected, ECU, High pressure Pump, Swirl pot, more sophisticated loom, inlet plenum small
alternator.
To keep costs down I fitted an exhaust manifold from a blactopand had a downpipe made (£35.00), fitted megajolt , used sierra alternator on carb side,
Made my own mounts
Had sump cut and welded and modified to side for starter motot to clear, modified steering to clear oil filter
Can get you pics if you want
Pics would be good......
will try and take some tommorow
Bertie.
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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norfolkluego
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| posted on 18/3/11 at 08:28 PM |
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If you keep the MJ and carbs the only expensive bit would be the manifolds
Exhaust - I bought the Fisher (BGH Geartech) one, around £300 delivered, nice bit of kit
Inlet can be had off eBay and top out about £150 but if you bide your time you'll get one for less than that.
If I did it again I'd use a flywheel with timing marks rather than faff about with a trigger wheel (I used the CVH flywheel to save weight)
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karlak
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| posted on 18/3/11 at 08:36 PM |
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Cheers fellas,
keep the ideas coming.
ALSO, what do I need to do to please the DVLA ? What do they need from me so that the V5 can be changed, engine number etc
MK Indy - 2litre Duratec - Omex 600 - Jenvey throttle bodies - ETB DigiDash2
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hughpinder
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| posted on 21/3/11 at 09:16 AM |
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I'd go for the duratec and try to keep the ECU and injection side. I know big_wasa has made this sort of setup work on a zetec, but for you the
duratec has the exhaust on the right side. Get the fuel pump /high pressure filter etc.
Regards
Hugh
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FASTdan
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| posted on 22/3/11 at 12:23 PM |
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Hope that pinto hasn't been causing problems?
You know I'll say Duratec. Ours works brilliantly with the 'agricultural' bike carb and MJ set up. Totally simple, yet up-to-date
performance, its fantastic to drive on the road and track.
There'd be hardly any wiring, your exhaust can probably be modded (cant remember what manifold you said you had though). The only big hit is the
bellhousing/flywheel situation.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 22/3/11 at 01:19 PM |
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Duratec will be alot dearer and will also need a new bellhousing, so even more costs.
Zetec will pretty much bol straight up with tweeks to clutch etc.
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flak monkey
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| posted on 22/3/11 at 01:31 PM |
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By the time you have replaced body panels to fit a zetec, there will be no difference in cost so you may as well fit a duratec and be done with it.
The blocks are cheap enough now, and you are guaranteed at least 180bhp out of the box with loads more very cheap. Same power from a zetec is big
money....
£/bhp the duratec wins hands down....
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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FASTdan
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| posted on 23/3/11 at 09:19 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
£/bhp the duratec wins hands down....
£/bhp/weight too 
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karlak
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 07:23 AM |
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OK, more questions, sorry 
* Car is currently registered and running the 2litre Pinto on an age related plate, so if I was to change the engine to something more modern, what
happens about emissions testing/CAT etc. I guess the DVLA will need to be given the "new" engine number for the V5
* Can someone help me with the difference between Silver and Black top Zetecs.
[Edited on 25/3/11 by karlak]
MK Indy - 2litre Duratec - Omex 600 - Jenvey throttle bodies - ETB DigiDash2
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