RichardK
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 10:35 PM |
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zetec headgasket change
Convinced the headgaskets gone on my zetec, how hard are they to do and how many special tools are required? defo burning coolant as it not in the oil
and no hoses are leaking. Plenty of water out of the exhaust though. And coolant gets very dirty very quickly.
Havent got 2 or 300 quid to throw at another engine which maybe worse mechanically than this one. But could find the money for a gasket.
Anyone done one, How hard was it???
Cheers
Rich
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mookaloid
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 10:38 PM |
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dunno mate but happy to give you a hand 
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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RichardK
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 10:42 PM |
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Thinking about trying that repair liquid? But thats about £30 
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ashg
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 11:01 PM |
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you can get a gasket kit for £25
then a head skim is another £30
so £55 and a days work and its fixed properly.
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RichardK
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 11:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ashg
you can get a gasket kit for £25
then a head skim is another £30
so £55 and a days work and its fixed properly.
I know what you mean Ash but it never stops there does it, new head bolts, rocker gasket, special tools for holding cams in place and that just the
stuff off the top off my head.
Can get seal stuff for a tenner but the stuff I've used before steel seal is near £30 but it is the best stuff.
Dunno, dunno, still thinking....
Rich
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ashg
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 11:24 PM |
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i have never used a special timing tool in my life. mark everything up or find a way of locking the cams and crank. remove the head skim it and fit
new headgasket. if your really short on cash you will get away with reusing the old head bolts as long as they haven't already been reused.
what is the point of bodging it. it will only come back and bite you on the ass when your out on a run.
edit...
rocker cover gasket comes in the kit
[Edited on 25/3/2011 by ashg]
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ashg
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 11:27 PM |
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there you go thats the first one i found on the bay. im sure you can get one cheeper if you hunt a bit more.
FORD MONDEO 2.0Ltr ZETEC HEAD GASKET SET on eBay (end time 01-Apr-11 22:32:40 BST)
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ashg
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 11:31 PM |
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here you go
one with the bolts included
FORD MONDEO 2.0Ltr ZETEC HEAD GASKET SET & BOLTS on eBay (end time 11-Apr-11 12:37:24 BST)
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RichardK
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 12:03 AM |
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Thanks ash, I'll take a look, think those are for a silvertop, my engine is a 2000 but should be similar money so ta.
Cheers
Rich
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big_wasa
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 08:13 AM |
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Ive just done mine. Get the head skimmed or you will be doing it again as I am.
Tools wise just over a tenner will buy you the proper cam tools and the zetec is a nice easy engine to work on. Only other special tool would be an
e10 female torx's bit for the cam caps and an angle gauge for the head bolts gives peice of mind.
Ford Fiesta Zetec Camshaft Timing Locking Kit on eBay (end time 14-Apr-11 08:36:44 BST)
Professional Quality Torque Angle Gauge 1/2' Drive on eBay (end time 28-Mar-11 21:08:47 BST)
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RichardK
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 08:27 AM |
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Thanks mate, got everything except the pin kit then, just ordered it so thanks for the link.
I'm going to try a bottle of steel seal first and keep an eye on it, have used it before on a mates car and it worked great last time so
we'll see, it's fairly obvious because of the extra steam that get generated.
Yeh will get the head skimmed if I end up taking it off, thanks for the tip, as I would have probably tried to "risk" it like you.
Cheers
Rich
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big_wasa
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 08:36 AM |
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I wouldnt bother with the goo. I put mine of as I was usure on who to get the head skimmed by. Found a top place just up the road from a recomendation
on here.
£30 cash and they even asked If I could wait a whole 12hrs for it 
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RichardK
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 08:50 AM |
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Warren, do you mind me asking where you got your gasket set from, having a little trouble finding a complete kit.
Cheers
Rich
Found one £45! FORD MONDEO FOCUS - 2.0 ZETEC Pre 9/99 HEAD GASKET SET on eBay (end time 12-Apr-11 13:59:55 BST)
FORD FOCUS MONDEO COUGAR 2.0L HEAD GASKET SET
[Edited on 26/3/11 by RichardK]
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britishtrident
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 09:12 AM |
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(1) Don't assume the head needs skimmed ---- unless the engine has been really cooked or the waterways are badly corroded, just carefully
check the head. If the waterways are corroded at the head surface you need to get it TIG welded and skimmed.
(2) Usually OK to reuse stretch bolts up to about 3 or 4 times --- the bolts are stretched ie operating beyond the elastic limit in the
"plastic zone" but this is well below the range at which failure (ie "necking" occurs. This actually increases the
elastic limit of the bolt, but failure load remains the same. On re-use subsequent tightening of the bolt, the bolt will only start to go into the
plastic zone again when the bolt is very very close to the original final fully tight load (either by angular tightening or torque wrench). The
amount of plastic stretching (permanent set) added on second or third tightening will be tiny.
(3) the really crucial thing is to get the first torquing down stage absolutely spot on otherwise all the subsequent angular tightening will be
highly inaccurate. Make sure the bolt threads are very clean and undamage, lubricate with kerosene or WD40 but you must allow the threads to
drip dry before screwing them in.
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RichardK
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 11:04 AM |
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Thanks BT, good advice as always, cheers buddy.
Cheers
Rich
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 11:36 AM |
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Just one tip , DO NOT use the cam locking tool to undo the Torx bolts holding the cam sprockets , have seen cams broken when this has been done .
Make, buy, borrow or steal a sprocket locking tool ,or use a spanner (think there is a hexagon on each cam)
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Davegtst
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 11:44 AM |
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I usually use mole grips to hold the cams still to undo the pulley bolts. I've seen engines that have been done without slackening off the
pulleys and they don't run perfectly afterwards so make sure you do it when you time it back up.
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coozer
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 12:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Just one tip , DO NOT use the cam locking tool to undo the Torx bolts holding the cam sprockets , have seen cams broken when this has been done .
Make, buy, borrow or steal a sprocket locking tool ,or use a spanner (think there is a hexagon on each cam)
[Edited on 26/3/11 by rusty nuts]
No need to undo the cam sprockets is there?
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 12:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Just one tip , DO NOT use the cam locking tool to undo the Torx bolts holding the cam sprockets , have seen cams broken when this has been done .
Make, buy, borrow or steal a sprocket locking tool ,or use a spanner (think there is a hexagon on each cam)
[Edited on 26/3/11 by rusty nuts]
No need to undo the cam sprockets is there?
Yes, especially if the head is skimmed as valve timing will be altered and also the tensioning of the timing belt should be done with the pulleys
slackened
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RichardK
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 12:28 PM |
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Mmm, I was thinking if I marked everything up then just put everything back in as they were then I wouldn't need to take the pulleys off, except
if the head needs a skim though.
Is my plan not going to work and they need to come off then for defo??
Cheers
Rich
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coozer
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 12:37 PM |
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Dunno what u mean Right as rain here.....
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lotusmadandy
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 06:40 PM |
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As above,i have done a couple of zetec cam belts.Never slackened
the cam pulleys and had no bother.
Andy
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 07:47 PM |
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Two ways to do the job , one is the right way! The Ford way is to slacken the pulley bolts . Decide for your self which way you do it !
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big_wasa
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| posted on 26/3/11 at 08:04 PM |
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Ive done a few zetec belts. Before I undo the cam bolts I check the timming and turn it over a few times. It can be upto half a tooth out. It can also
be spot on.
I got my last gasket from femi on here. I normally just nip into the local factors. I only needed the head gasket and bolts. I dont like re using them
for the sake of a tenner.
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