StevieB
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| posted on 23/12/12 at 12:24 PM |
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Zetec SE / Sigma engine install info?
Hi all,
Used a bit of the search function on this one but not coming up with a lot of info (probably because of the presence of the word 'Zetec'
bringing up loads of irrelevant threads about the older unit).
Has/is anyone doing an install of the Zetec SE/Sigma engine into a se7en type car (IE, front engine RWD) and have any info on the parts needed to
convert?
The engine is an attractive prospect being so light, compact and revvy but still being able to get up to the 150bhp mark. It just seems there's
a bit of a void on information about the conversion (apart from handing Caterham a heap of money for one of their engine's in a crate).
I'm currently weighing up against a Zetec Blacktop and 2.0 Duratec install.
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Jenko
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| posted on 23/12/12 at 12:43 PM |
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I'm currently putting one in a sylva j15, but that uses the ib5 gear box, so none of the conversion expense is required....
Having had a fair bit of experience with te cvh( I see that's what you currently have), a zetec black top conversion is going to to be far
easier and cheaper, as all the parts readily available, you keep the same bellhousing, the inlet is on the same side. Given a choice I would go
duratec, but would estimate and addiction cost of around 1500.
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daniel mason
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| posted on 23/12/12 at 02:36 PM |
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youll get up and beyond 150bhp but it will need a fair ammount of money spending on it to get 170-180 bhp. there are a few around and cc use them as
factory option
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 23/12/12 at 03:47 PM |
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Believe beaver34 on here is doing this, also shawspeed specialise.
I looked into doing this and realised it was easier to use a Duratec and cheaper as they are 150 out of the box about 180 with throttle bodies.
The SE engine was designed by Yamaha for ford and dosn't share any common components with a Ford Zetec.
link
Duratec Engine is fitted, MS2 Extra V3 is assembled and tested, engine running, car now built. IVA passed 26/02/2016
http://www.triangleltd.com
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beaver34
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| posted on 23/12/12 at 04:05 PM |
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I have and do
I rand the engine in n/a form, uprated rod bolts (shawspeed) shawspeed ss4 cams and big valve head and piper valve springs 42mm busa thottle bodies
Reved to 8k and did 175bhp and 130lbft all stock rods pistons and crank that engine did 10k and was from a scrap yard to start with
Now the same engine is turbo charged and runs over 300bhp but won't bore you with those details.
Shawspeed do the bell housing adaptor, stick there ss4 cams and a set of bodies and it will do 150-160bhp and rev to 8k all day there the lightest 1.6
engine made
The ecu is an expensive part
Anything else you want to know just ask 
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StevieB
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| posted on 23/12/12 at 04:10 PM |
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Cheers Beaver, just the sort of info I'm after.
Part of the reason for considering this over a duratec is that it's a lighter engine by a fair bit over the duratec and since I want to go
hillclimbing in the car, it puts me in the lower capacity class too.
A suitably chopped sump seems to be the thing that I can't find too many suppliers of at the moment, apart from Caterham which is expensive (but
I guess at least it's an option).
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beaver34
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| posted on 23/12/12 at 04:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by StevieB
Cheers Beaver, just the sort of info I'm after.
Part of the reason for considering this over a duratec is that it's a lighter engine by a fair bit over the duratec and since I want to go
hillclimbing in the car, it puts me in the lower capacity class too.
A suitably chopped sump seems to be the thing that I can't find too many suppliers of at the moment, apart from Caterham which is expensive (but
I guess at least it's an option).
oil starvation is an issue, i ran a stock sump that i baffled had no issues
i would look at running an accusump or somethig like that
my turbo engine is dry sumped
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StevieB
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| posted on 23/12/12 at 04:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
quote:
Originally posted by StevieB
Cheers Beaver, just the sort of info I'm after.
Part of the reason for considering this over a duratec is that it's a lighter engine by a fair bit over the duratec and since I want to go
hillclimbing in the car, it puts me in the lower capacity class too.
A suitably chopped sump seems to be the thing that I can't find too many suppliers of at the moment, apart from Caterham which is expensive (but
I guess at least it's an option).
oil starvation is an issue, i ran a stock sump that i baffled had no issues
i would look at running an accusump or somethig like that
my turbo engine is dry sumped
I think I'd struggle for ground clearance without a sump chop as the bottom of the bell housing (level with the current Westfield CVH sump) sits
about as low as I'm comfortable with at the moment.
I had thought about fitting an accusump anyway, as it was always a consideration on my R1 Indy (though never proved to be a problem for the short time
I was running it post SVA)
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beaver34
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| posted on 23/12/12 at 04:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by StevieB
quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
quote:
Originally posted by StevieB
Cheers Beaver, just the sort of info I'm after.
Part of the reason for considering this over a duratec is that it's a lighter engine by a fair bit over the duratec and since I want to go
hillclimbing in the car, it puts me in the lower capacity class too.
A suitably chopped sump seems to be the thing that I can't find too many suppliers of at the moment, apart from Caterham which is expensive (but
I guess at least it's an option).
oil starvation is an issue, i ran a stock sump that i baffled had no issues
i would look at running an accusump or somethig like that
my turbo engine is dry sumped
I think I'd struggle for ground clearance without a sump chop as the bottom of the bell housing (level with the current Westfield CVH sump) sits
about as low as I'm comfortable with at the moment.
I had thought about fitting an accusump anyway, as it was always a consideration on my R1 Indy (though never proved to be a problem for the short time
I was running it post SVA)
that fair enough. you will need to do something about that though
your localish so if you want to pop over for a chat and a look your welcome to
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 23/12/12 at 04:47 PM |
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If you want to see a Duratec installed I'm just outside York.
Duratec Engine is fitted, MS2 Extra V3 is assembled and tested, engine running, car now built. IVA passed 26/02/2016
http://www.triangleltd.com
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black fingernail
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| posted on 23/12/12 at 08:20 PM |
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good choice of engine,
I fitted a 1700 se in my locost a couple of years and @ 10k miles ago. I made my own bellhousing. but i know shawspeed can supply them.
It goes very well, I have kept the standard fuel system and it is extremely well mannered, goes like a rocket, and still gives very good fuel economy.
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