BKLOCO
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 08:24 AM |
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Gear Remotes
Can anyone advise please on the quality of the various gear remotes to fit the Ford Type 9 box. ie. difference in build quality and responsiveness. At
the moment it's a toss up between the one sold by Tiger and the one sold by Westfield. (or are they actually the same unit) Any help would be
good. Have also been considering making my own (Plans?) Thanks in advance for any help.
[Edited on 5-9-05 by BKLOCO]
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!! 
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 08:32 AM |
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You can find a few ideas off my website (link below).
Follow the link to 'special parts', then the link to the remote page. No dimensions, but enough clues to get something built.
Works very well! 
David
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NS Dev
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 08:55 AM |
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bear in mind that (my view here) all the extensions make the shift sloppier as they have two bellcranks instead of 1.
I made my own extension with a shaft that roll pins on in place of the std bellcrank, and then the std bellcrank pins to the end of the new extended
shaft. You do have to make all your own limit stops etc and reverse interlock but it's not tricky to do.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 09:00 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
bear in mind that (my view here) all the extensions make the shift sloppier as they have two bellcranks instead of 1.
Mine doesn't!
The bought ones certainly do, though. Sounds like yours uses the same principles as mine (parallel evolution... )
David
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NS Dev
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 09:15 AM |
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ah, cool! I did think that surely somebody else must have seen the more logical way to do it!
edit - just had a look at yours, so to speak....it's a lot neater than mine!
One thing though, didn't you find the need to have a stop opposite the reverse lockout stop, to prevent going "beyond" 5th gear?
[Edited on 5/9/05 by NS Dev]
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 09:20 AM |
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Never had a problem with it...
...you realise I'll now have to go to my car tonight and see what happens!
I've used it for 1000+ miles now, and not had a problem tho'.
cheers,
David
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donut
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 10:03 AM |
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I'll be getting the Westfield one ( i think) which is a lovely bit of engineering. Looks very well made.
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 11:01 AM |
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Thanks for pointing me to your design David. Looks like a good solution to the problem of increased "slop" As an engineer I have access to
machine tools so may well have a go at making one similar to yours. The point about a stop for overshooting 5th is interesting. I would be interested
to hear your comments after trying it on your car.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 12:01 PM |
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The 'trying it on the car' bit was a bit tongue-in-cheek - I've never had a problem with over-shooting or missing gears. It has
always worked as it should.
the only thing that's missing off the current design (and will be added next time it comes out of the car) it to fix a small-diameter pipe from
the top surface down to a point adjacent to the shaft bearing, so that it can be oiled simply by lifting the gearstick gaiter and putting a few drops
down the tube.
David
[Edited on 5/9/05 by David Jenkins]
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NS Dev
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 12:15 PM |
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doh, maybe I didn't need to add the extra stop then!
certainly with the 'box on the bench, if you push the lever to the right and forwards for 5th, it goes too far to the right (which the internals
allow to happen) and then won't push forward to select the gear. I guess with it in the car it is just hard to miss the gear.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 05:54 PM |
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I followed Davids design on my car , must say it was simple but very effective . Think I extended it by about 5in and have had no problems at all
with gear selection all for a total cost of about 90p . Was lucky managed to find all the materials in the scrap bin except the plastic insert at the
base of the gear lever. Well worth the effort.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 08:52 PM |
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Just to confirm - I went and played with the gearshift - you can push it hard right, and the only way it'll go is up into 5th (or back to
neutral, of course).
There is no stop on that side - I believe that something internal to the gearbox stops you going too far.
David
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 5/9/05 at 09:06 PM |
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Stripped it all out this evening!!!
Will start manufacturing tomorrow hopefully.
Tempted to build top plate and bearing plate from ally and bolt it all together. Comments?
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 6/9/05 at 07:11 AM |
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I found it easier to weld mild steel, than trying to use fasteners into alloy. Mind you, I do have a great big lathe that makes machine big round
holes very easy!
David
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NS Dev
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| posted on 6/9/05 at 07:21 AM |
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hmmmmm, best have a look inside my gearbox then! Doh!!
better still, I'll use one of the others laying about the place instead!!!
cheers, you may have saved me having to take the box out of the car in the future!!!!!
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 7/9/05 at 08:38 PM |
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Thanks for your help on this topic.
Just finished my remote
Pics in archive if your interested.
Thanks again.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 7/9/05 at 08:40 PM |
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looks just the ticket mate!
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edspurrier
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| posted on 24/1/10 at 11:15 AM |
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Does anybody please make Dave Jenkin's version commercially?
Just ordered a new gearbox, would wuite like a better shift but no time, kit or talent to make my own
Thanks
Ed
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