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ray.h.

posted on 4/10/05 at 09:21 PM Reply With Quote
Porche 924?

Has any one tried to use the drive train from a Porche 924?
Also is the engine in a 924 the same as the engine in my VW Passat? (can you see what i,m getting at)
What other RWD gearboxes could be mated to to a VW engine?

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britishtrident

posted on 4/10/05 at 09:53 PM Reply With Quote
A 924 transaxle would shift the weight quite far to the rear, it would also increase the polar moment of inertia -- thats before you even consider how to accomodate it.

Istr that the 924 engine was only shared with VW van.

I think you can get a bellhousing to mate VW 1.6/18 Gti engine to a normal Ford type 9 gearbox.

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ray.h.

posted on 4/10/05 at 10:10 PM Reply With Quote
My Passat has the 1.8 engine but looking at the 924 it looks very similar. I didn,t realise the 924 had a transaxle, i thought it was a convetional gearbox and diff.Never mind, back to the drawing board. I take it none of the Audi,s use a conventional layout?
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Hellfire

posted on 4/10/05 at 11:38 PM Reply With Quote
I was informed years ago that the 924 engine is a SAAB engine - is that not the case?






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JonBowden

posted on 5/10/05 at 07:07 AM Reply With Quote
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I was informed years ago that the 924 engine is a SAAB engine - is that not the case?



No, I think the person was confused - the old SAAB 900s used their varient on an old Triumph engine as used on the TR7.
I guess they must have fixed it's reliability problems





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JonBowden

posted on 5/10/05 at 07:09 AM Reply With Quote
If anyone has an old 924, I'd guess it might have potential for a rover V8 conversion - that would be quite fun.





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zilspeed

posted on 5/10/05 at 08:25 AM Reply With Quote
The real killer is the clutch - that's at the back as well. Imagine trying to accomodate that in the back of a locost.

The engine is VW van, and is strangely satisfying in the 924. Sort of industrial, but grunty in a similar way to the old injected 4 cylinder BMW M10 engine (if that means anything to anyone). Anyway, it's a willing old beast.

Another thought. It's a slant four - over to the right of the car - so would certainly cause steering column issues, although no more than a vee engine I guess.

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Volvorsport

posted on 5/10/05 at 09:47 AM Reply With Quote
hmm unsure if the porsche transaxle is infornt or behind the axle line , anyway , it will be a pain in the arse if you have to sit on it , if its behind the axle , it may well work , if its anything like the volvo box , youll end up sitting on it .

the potential is to fit a 944 turbo engine , altho - for the money you can have comparable power for a lot less .

and yeah the steering column will get tight !!!!!!





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chrisg

posted on 5/10/05 at 11:53 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by zilspeed
The real killer is the clutch - that's at the back as well. Imagine trying to accomodate that in the back of a locost.

The engine is VW van, and is strangely satisfying in the 924. Sort of industrial, but grunty in a similar way to the old injected 4 cylinder BMW M10 engine (if that means anything to anyone). Anyway, it's a willing old beast.

Another thought. It's a slant four - over to the right of the car - so would certainly cause steering column issues, although no more than a vee engine I guess.


Just to correct a few misconceptions.

The 924 clutch is on the back of the engine not at the rear, joined by a slim torque tube to the rear mounted gearbox/transaxle.

The block is similar to the block used in the Audi 80/90/100 range (70's), the AMC Pacer and yes the LT van, although not interchangable, the head is a Porsche designed ali casting.

It's funny how the 924 has been saddled with this "van engined" business, you don't hear much talk of the lorry engined dodge viper, The transit engined Sierra Cosworth or indeed the tractor engined Aston Martin DB4!

This sort of prejudice stops people enjoying a fantastic car.

Cheers

Chris

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Kissy

posted on 5/10/05 at 11:53 AM Reply With Quote
And the 924 was a hairdresser's car - doesn't sound good down the pub does it - "...actually it's got a van engine that propelled Vidal Sasoon about the place".
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chrisg

posted on 5/10/05 at 11:53 AM Reply With Quote
See Above
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britishtrident

posted on 5/10/05 at 04:43 PM Reply With Quote
924= 1980s Hairdresser car much like the Sunbeam Alpine of old. It was well balanced but boring to drive and rather gutless.
944 = very interesting sports car
924 Turbo = not bad sports car mainly due to work done on he 944.

The 924 engine was in the VW LT for years before it went into 924 or any other car in contrast the the Pinto engine (ugh !) was in the Ford car range for 8 years before it went into the Transit.

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chrisg

posted on 6/10/05 at 10:30 AM Reply With Quote
The 924 engine was never in the LT


A block similar to the 924's was in the LT van.

What about the Dodge truck engine and the DB tractor engine?

Honestly if the 924 had been the Audi Coupe it was meant to be it would be massively collectable now. it suffered for having a Porsche badge.

The 924 was described as "The best handling Porsche in stock form" in Excellence magazine, the mag of the Porsche Club GB. On the track you can scoot past all the oversteering 911s in the twisty bits, although they do tend to catch up a bit on the straights!

It's narrow prejudice, get one now while they're sill cheap!

Cheers

Chris

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