trogdor
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| posted on 21/1/06 at 03:32 PM |
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starter motor for zetec
hi, i have purchased a zetec to fit into my saab, i haven't seen it yet as i am away at uni at the mo, my dad aquired it for me. i have read in
articles that u need to change the starter motor, is this because it will foul on something such as the gearbox? its being mounted to a saab gearbox
so it may clear it, but if it doesn't clear a type 9 it won' clear the saab one i guess, can anyone confirm this is why i can't use
the starter motor? also is the orginal alternator too powerful? its a 70 amp one on the zetec while the saabs orginal is about 40, will this be a
problem? or does the eletrical systems of the car take what current they need not what they are given? sorry if these are silly questions,
haven't been doing this for very long! cheers
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piddy
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| posted on 21/1/06 at 03:42 PM |
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Hi.
The starter motor mounts onto the gearbox not engine. The bolt pattern of the zetec starter motor doesn't match that of the Type nine.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 21/1/06 at 04:09 PM |
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99% of people on this this forum have never even seen a Saab 96 never mind know intimately what is under the bonnet and how to mate it to a Zetec. We
try to help with most problems that kit and special builders encounter but we don't have crystal balls.
Any FWD Ford starter is unlikely to fit because of the bolt pattern a Sierra or Cortina starter might.
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spaximus
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| posted on 21/1/06 at 06:23 PM |
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The Saab 96 used a v4 petrol engine out of the corsair, tansit Zepher, fixed to a Saab gearbox. Now IIRC the bellhousing on that was very differant to
the one on the Zetec. Anything is possible but unless the type 9 bellhousing fits onto the Saab gearbox you may have problems. If it does fit then the
1.8cvh sierra starter is the one you want with an 1.8 mondeo flywheel if it is a 2.0ltr you are fitting.
If it fits this will make it fly as they were quite quick for their day
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 21/1/06 at 06:39 PM |
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Didn't the Saab use the Taunus version of the V4 which had several differences to the British version? it's been a long time since I last
saw one . From what I can make out when fitting the Zetec engine to a type nine some starters require the sump relieving for clearance ? . This may
be the case for your car? I think one of the starters used is the CVH Sierra unit.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 21/1/06 at 07:29 PM |
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I was the Colonge unit (no great but much better than the Essex) ---- and column gear change -- the consequence of getting the wrong gear going down
the box in a hury with Zetec could be expensive.
Memories I used to fancy an older woman who had a yellow m reg one (Saab v4 that is) wonderful sexy shape (her not the car).
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 21/1/06 at 09:04 PM |
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The car wasn't bad either?
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bob
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| posted on 22/1/06 at 11:39 AM |
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I cant be sure but maybe a forum like this one might be more help.
http://www.spannerfodder.com/phpBB2/index.php
Or one of the many ford/zetec forums out there
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britishtrident
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| posted on 22/1/06 at 12:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
The car wasn't bad either?
Don't know never looked at it.
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trogdor
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| posted on 23/1/06 at 03:11 PM |
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don't i count as i special builder? i was aware that its unlikely that anyone knows about a saab 96 internals and wether u can fit a zetec to
its gearbox, but there was still a chance! am abit confused about the starter motor, if it mounts to the gearbox orginally what does the sierra one
mount too? or is there a mount already there? i have the feeling that at best the gearbox will not fir precisely, if i am lucky i will only have to
move some bolt holes slightly! thanks for the clarification guys!
P.S. oh yeah the guy who mentioned that i could make an expensive mistake with a steering column gear change may be right. but with the saab gearbox
comes a freewheel. u can down shift with out touching the clutch! and upshift if u have the knack apparently!
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 23/1/06 at 03:57 PM |
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Most British fords use the same bell housing pattern, as yours is Ford based angine and box you may be lucky if you can get the right clutch to fit
the engine and the box . I suspect you may have to relieve the ally sump to get clearance for the starter or at the worst change or modify the bell
housing. Sounds like an interesting idea though BOL
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