Krismc
|
| posted on 3/5/06 at 03:02 PM |
|
|
BIKE THROTTLE BODDIES!
Got these GXSR throttle boddies and im going to run standard injectors, im totally unsure how to get these fitted to my zetec!
I need a manifold making- where and who can do this?
can anyone advise me ive been looking about in search field but all other TB's seem to be different!
and what should i do as reguards seperating them and fuel supply etc!
any help is appriciated?
pics to folllow
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
|
|
|
|
|
Krismc
|
| posted on 3/5/06 at 03:06 PM |
|
|
[Edited on 3/5/06 by Krismc]
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
|
|
|
DarrenW
|
| posted on 3/5/06 at 03:08 PM |
|
|
U2U sent ref Deneo
|
|
|
Krismc
|
| posted on 3/5/06 at 03:17 PM |
|
|
cheers ive sent him a U2U - so i may have the manifold sorted can anyone tell me anything else i would need, i would like to try and get the stuff
ordered ASAP- like the filters, hosing joints and pipe work, throttle linkage etc
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
|
|
|
James
|
| posted on 3/5/06 at 04:19 PM |
|
|
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=8100&page=4
Read this thoroughly, tells you most of what you need.
HTH,
James
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
|
|
|
Krismc
|
| posted on 3/5/06 at 05:34 PM |
|
|
great but most the file links and the jpegs no longer exsist and im no further forward as people contradict each other or is it just that there is
more than one way to skin a cat??
all i need to know is how to dismantle the unit, what do i keep?
what do i need to put back together and do i need a special throttle linkage and sensor??
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
|
|
|
muzchap
|
| posted on 3/5/06 at 06:07 PM |
|
|
Kris,
Slow down mate 
Paul's sorting you out some stuff already - he'll advise on what to do.
You do need a custom manifold - so best to send your TB's off to a company to make one - and the gasket for the inlet manifold - that's
how I did mine.
You'll then need to connect together - I used 45mm pipe from Burton Power and 2 jubilee clips to do mine from Inlet ---> TB. then 52mm pipe
for TB ---> Trumpets, again with 2 jubilee clips.
Next get some Aluminium Trumpets from www.performancecentre.co.uk - you want the ITG Bare Spun Aluminium (bout £5.00 each).
You'll then need a new fuel rail - with an inlet and outlet 8mm pipe. Jenvey supply fuel rails for about £20-£30 - you just have to cut it for
your injectors.
You'll also need a Fuel Pressure Regulator - Ebay is a good bet - or new for about 60-70quid.
Keep everything standard - fuel pipe is 8mm.
The clips you want are fuel hose clips - Car Builder Solutions or Merlin Motorsport - or local motorfactor.
Don't dismantle the unit - you need pretty much everything on there
It's best to research everything carefully and approach with caution - this is not a 'bolt together' solution - I've just done
all the above and found out my fckuing alternator won't fit under the TB's!!! 
But - when it is complete the sense of achievement and satisfaction is immense (so I'm told  )
[Edited on 3/5/06 by muzchap]
------------------------------------
If you believe you're not crazy, whilst everybody is telling you, you are - then they are definitely wrong!
------------------------------------
|
|
|
Krismc
|
| posted on 3/5/06 at 07:00 PM |
|
|
quote:
Slow down mate
Paul's sorting you out some stuff already - he'll advise on what to do.
yea i know paul is sorting the elctronics parts!
sorry mate just nothing has got done on my car in weeks! so im itching to get it sorted!
yea fuel pumps, filters, ecu, wiring loom etc- all being sorted by him, he seems a good chap
didnt relise he knew his stuff on the throttle boddies as well
You do need a custom manifold - so best to send your TB's off to a company to make one - and the gasket for the inlet manifold - that's
how I did mine.
quote:
deneo is helping me out there hopefully, he seems to do some superior welding
quote:
You'll then need to connect together - I used 45mm pipe from Burton Power and 2 jubilee clips to do mine from Inlet ---> TB. then 52mm pipe
for TB ---> Trumpets, again with 2 jubilee clips.
Next get some Aluminium Trumpets from www.performancecentre.co.uk - you want the ITG Bare Spun Aluminium (bout £5.00 each).
Any size trumpets do??
And you know the lenght of pipe roughly i make it 25-35mm should do it, is that about right just my mate is going to get some custom samco done for me
in orange and it takes 5 weeks!
thats why im worring about time
quote:
You'll then need a new fuel rail - with an inlet and outlet 8mm pipe. Jenvey supply fuel rails for about £20-£30 - you just have to cut it for
your injectors.
You'll also need a Fuel Pressure Regulator - Ebay is a good bet - or new for about 60-70quid.
Keep everything standard - fuel pipe is 8mm.
The clips you want are fuel hose clips - Car Builder Solutions or Merlin Motorsport - or local motorfactor.
any special regulator or just a FSE desinged for a ford
quote:
Don't dismantle the unit - you need pretty much everything on there
It's best to research everything carefully and approach with caution - this is not a 'bolt together' solution - I've just done
all the above and found out my fckuing alternator won't fit under the TB's!!!
But - when it is complete the sense of achievement and satisfaction is immense (so I'm told )
cheers for that and good luck with the rest of your build
[Edited on 3/5/06 by Krismc]
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
|
|
|
Krismc
|
| posted on 3/5/06 at 07:20 PM |
|
|
just had a look on www.performancecenter.co.uk
and seen these with no pic but i take it mean 48mm internal diameter and 70mm in lenght!!
Part No. AH32
Type Bare aluminium spinning
ID 48
Length from carb 70
Notes For customer fabrication
Price £5.46
resonable price
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
|
|
|
muzchap
|
| posted on 3/5/06 at 08:06 PM |
|
|
Yup they're the ones
I know ya eager mate - so am I - it's just more annoying buying loadsa stuff that AINT needed, because things were rushed or not properly
researched
I'll help as much as I can - doing a similar install.
I'd advise trying to go and see a car with the install done - or near to done - you'll come away with a much better picture of
requirements then
[Edited on 3/5/06 by muzchap]
------------------------------------
If you believe you're not crazy, whilst everybody is telling you, you are - then they are definitely wrong!
------------------------------------
|
|
|
Krismc
|
| posted on 4/5/06 at 06:40 PM |
|
|
Dont know anyone in northeast who has one? Didnt know it was possible until you guys told me!
And was i roughly right about the pipe lenght and size?
My (rough) list so far
1) PIPE 30mm x 52mm (x4)
2) PIPE 30mm x 45mm(x4) in samco!
3) 16 jubilee clips (smooth pipe type)
4) fuel regulator?? (which one)
im going to try and keep the spacing on the bike TBs the same and im not going to split them!
[Edited on 4/5/06 by Krismc]
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
|
|
|
DarrenW
|
| posted on 4/5/06 at 10:38 PM |
|
|
Kris,
When speccing the pipes say which is diameter (the other will be assumed to be length).
Im pleased Deneo will be able to help you out (i dont suppose he mentioned my manifold did he?)
If you are going for throttle bodies will you also need a swirl pot adding to your list? May also need oil catch tank (Deneo should be able to sort
you out)
|
|
|
Krismc
|
| posted on 5/5/06 at 02:25 PM |
|
|
what is a oil catch and swirl?
And where do they fit??
and yea he said possibly next week for your manifold, i only spoke to him about it, i dont think is making me one- not sure
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
|
|
|
Krismc
|
| posted on 5/5/06 at 02:46 PM |
|
|
ah i cant use samco cause apparently it isnt fuel resistant!
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
|
|
|
