nick205
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Exhaust wrap s/steel tie wraps?
Just been fitting some heat insulation "bandage" to my exhaust and trying to secure it with the little stainless steel tie wrap thingys.
I can't seem to get them anywhere tight enough though - any tips on how to close them tightly/properly?
Failing that is there any reason not to use stainless steel jubilee clips to hold the wrap in place?
Cheers
Nick
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muzchap
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| posted on 8/5/06 at 10:16 PM |
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Hi mate - i did mine at the weekend!
I used 50ft of zorst wrap!!! I only did the downpipes!!! 
Ok - what I found is get them started - then pair of pliers and a screwdriver - rest the screwdriver against the head bit, whilst pulling with the
pliers - then try to fold back over the way you came whilst pulling - should go nice and tight then 
Then I just trimmed the excess with some sidecutters.
HTH
Murray
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RazMan
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| posted on 8/5/06 at 10:21 PM |
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I saw some 'wire twisting' pliers at Stoneleigh - £30 though ! 
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Mike R-F
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| posted on 8/5/06 at 10:46 PM |
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Throw it away & use hose clips (Jubilee type). I used the stainless ones on my V6 & they worked loose after a while. I never really felt they
could be pulled tight enough! You can really tighten hose clips up on the bandage so it won't go anywhere.
PS, If this is your first time using exhaust wrap, be prepared for a lot of smoke 'till it beds in. I thought I'd set the bloody car on
fire!
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DarrenW
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| posted on 8/5/06 at 10:49 PM |
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Kind of hijack.
I can get wrap off ebay cheap. No ties supplied. What else can be used as ties? Jubile style clips or perhaps copper wire????
Also what is best way to apply? Dry, saoked in water or dampened??
[Edited on 8/5/06 by DarrenW]
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 8/5/06 at 11:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DarrenW
Kind of hijack.
I can get wrap off ebay cheap. No ties supplied. What else can be used as ties? Jubile style clips or perhaps copper wire????
Also what is best way to apply? Dry, saoked in water or dampened??
[Edited on 8/5/06 by DarrenW]
I used stainless steel MIG wire (because it was there)
(Twisted nice and tight with ordinary pliers Mike)
I was told by a trader at Stoneleigh to apply it wet but I actually did it dry and it seemed to work ok.
It certainly does smoke though.
I used the black carbon impregnated stuff. That's really nice to use....black snot afterwards
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!! 
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 9/5/06 at 08:05 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BKLOCO
It certainly does smoke though.
Too true! Scared the life out of me when I made my first journey to the MOT station - 1 mile up the road and there's evil-smelling smoke coming
out from under the bonnet!
David
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Hellfire
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| posted on 9/5/06 at 08:20 AM |
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The copper wire will only anneal (soften) and break if used to secure bandage - I've tried it with no joy.
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muzchap
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| posted on 9/5/06 at 09:24 AM |
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I sprayed mine with an Atomiser - it went on ok - apart from when my mate pulled it through a tricky bit and it whipped me on the lip!
It itched for ages!
Darren - get the 50ft stuff 2" wide - you'll need it. The bloody stuff goes nowhere
I'm using Stainless Steel ties - but if like the guys on here say, they play up - I'll be clamping with some Stainless jubilee clips
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bimbleuk
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| posted on 9/5/06 at 09:31 AM |
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Ive used two types of fastners ones which rely on friction and the others which have a tab which locks on to the strip (like a zip tie). I preffered
the latter but the kit I bought from CBS came with the friction ones
I'm going to use SS lock wire in stead. My tool with lock wire was less than £30 from a parts show.
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tractorboy
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| posted on 9/5/06 at 09:33 AM |
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i used locking wire on mine . but only because i had some to hand along with a pair of locking wire pliers. cheers scott
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Nick Skidmore
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| posted on 9/5/06 at 12:04 PM |
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I've used these and found the best way to tighten was with a pair of pliers and twist the ty-wrap like undoing a tin of sardines.
If you use the ratchet ones and get them tight, I found they don't come undone.
Watch out for the bit that sticks out after trimming to length it's nearly as sharp as a stanley knife blade and can cut you badly
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C10CoryM
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| posted on 9/5/06 at 04:05 PM |
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Look into CV boot clamps as well. There are a couple kinds and they do not loosen off.
Cheap too.
Cheers.
"Our watchword evermore shall be: The Maple Leaf Forever!"
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nick205
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| posted on 9/5/06 at 06:36 PM |
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As I thought - I'm going for s/steel jubilee clips for now, not impressed with the s/steel tie wraps at all.
Good tip on the smoking as well - I imagine that would have been a bit of a brown trouser moment if you were'nt expecting it 
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