Krismc
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 posted on 21/5/06 at 11:45 AM |
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ANGLE OF THE DANGLE!!
Is it just the angle of the dangle.....or will my engine never go in??
Ive removed all the obstructions as pointed out by marc(MNR) and iain(AGRIV8)!! when they came to visit, i,e the tunnel clearnce issuses and ive also
cut some chunks off the engine !
what am i doing wrong??
Theroretically it will fit into the space now but .........
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and from the other side
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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Krismc
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 11:46 AM |
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you may think the sump is in the way, so ive removed it and give it another go, its a little further into the engine bay but no luck still!!!
But even if it did go with the sump removed that would be stupid, because i would have to drain oil and remove sump just to change clutch for
example
here is pics with sump removed...
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UncleFista
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 11:52 AM |
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Would it not make it easier if you split the engine/box ?
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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flak monkey
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 11:53 AM |
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Yep, thats what I was going to suggest... Split the engine and box. Should go in easily then 
Sera
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Krismc
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 11:55 AM |
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i tried that, when the box is in, pushed as far into tunnel as possible, and then when i lower the engine with the crank as close to the front as
possible, there is the whole clutch which wont squeeze past the bellhousing!!
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 11:56 AM |
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Will it go in from underneath?
Lift the Chassis, guide the gearbox up into the tunnel and then lift the engine and lower the chassis till its all in place
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Krismc
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 12:01 PM |
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ERM it might but im on my own here@ the moment!
....ive blagged a favour from my mate 3 times to come and fit engine- and each time we come accross another hurdle!
What will i use to get the car high up! i wouldnt trust a trolly jack that high- plus it would be in the middle of the car to get enough height!!
right??
Then i guess id slide the engine under then reconnect to the engine crane!
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Krismc
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 12:02 PM |
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....plus my engine and gear bo must weight 8 tonne already!
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 12:04 PM |
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Yup, sounds like you've got the right idea, chock the reat wheels and put the trolly jack somewhere under the foot well area.
We've done it this way a few times for removing and replacing both FWD and RWD engines and gearboxes.
The trolley jack should be fine as it will only be supporting the weight of the chassis as it will just about be down by the time it takes any weight
of the engine.
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Krismc
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 12:06 PM |
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if i put it at the rear of the engine bay (near center of car) i have no areas to lift from at its all flat plate
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 12:08 PM |
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Can you use a piece of wood to bridge the gap between a few chassis rails?
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gary gsx
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 12:24 PM |
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Is the gearbox mount bracket welded to the chassis? Ive made mine so i can un bolt it, then jack front of chassis up and get a better angle on engine
and box just a thought
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DIY Si
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 12:29 PM |
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Is it poss to place the box in the tunnel, but further back? Then drop the engine in and move the two together? Not familiar with the chassis
you've got so this could be complete ar$e.
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Krismc
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 12:33 PM |
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quote:
Is the gearbox mount bracket welded to the chassis? Ive made mine so i can un bolt it, then jack front of chassis up and get a better angle on
engine and box just a thought quote:
its part of the chassis!
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Krismc
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 12:34 PM |
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quote:
Is it poss to place the box in the tunnel, but further back? Then drop the engine in and move the two together? Not familiar with the chassis
you've got so this could be complete ar$e.
as the tunnel gets smaller as it comes to near the end of gear box i cant get the gear box in any further! and the gear stick mounting part rubs the 2
rails!
[Edited on 21/5/06 by Krismc]
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DIY Si
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 12:47 PM |
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Didn't you manage to get it most of the wa in before like that?
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scottc
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 12:47 PM |
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What about using the hoist to lift the front of the car and the jack to lift the engine in from underneath?
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Krismc
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 12:53 PM |
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quote:
Didn't you manage to get it most of the wa in before like that?
yea with out the clutch on!! which adds a fair bit!
The flywheel nearly squeezed past the bellhousing!!
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scottc
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 01:00 PM |
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For a few cups of tea and a biscuit I could give you a hand this afternoon.
Never tried to do this before but I can shout at it for you!
I think I'm local to you.
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zenarcher
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 01:42 PM |
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Looks like one of these jobs where 2 or 3 people would be a good thing, I would use the hoist to lift chassis and then lift engine/gb' combo on
jack at the point of balance,if you see what I mean.
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tks
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 02:00 PM |
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mhhh
Dunno how the box is, but i wouldn't like to connect an angine to the box.
Cant you dsimantle the box at the front??
for example take away the stick with its shit, until you come close the hte wall where the bearings are??
Then you havemore room to move in the tunnel right??
best option would be just make every thing wich sit in the way bolt on/off ready..
Tks
The above comments are always meant to be from the above persons perspective.
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Peteff
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 02:27 PM |
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Have you measured it for final fit?
You've got to lift the back end of the gearbox as you lower the engine and move it backwards or the car forwards at the same time, you could do
with an engine leveller to use with the hoist.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Simon
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 03:06 PM |
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How about raising the rear of the car.
ATB
Simon
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Krismc
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 03:08 PM |
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thing is its not a final fit!!
and every thing that is bolted off is off.
i was going to test fit to mark and drill holes for mounts, then remove, sort starter and hydraulic clutch out then refit!
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givemethebighammer
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| posted on 21/5/06 at 06:47 PM |
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Put the engine and gearbox on a piece of 3/4 inch plywood with a caster in each corner. Lift the car with the engine lift. Slide the engine and
gearbox underneath. Lower the car (onto axle stands if necc). Then use the engine lift to lift and maneuver the engine and gearbox into position.
Worked for me when I built the tiger, took two of us to do the job.
good luck
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