Rich_T
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| posted on 27/8/06 at 03:59 PM |
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Zetec with standard injection
Hi, Now I know the first answer I'll get is to go with throttle bodies, however in the interests of ecconomy is there any reason why the
standard injection system cant be used off a Mondeo? The only reason I can initially think of would be height although it doesnt sit that much higher
than the cam cover.
Has anyone done this or had any experience
Cheers
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rayward
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| posted on 27/8/06 at 04:05 PM |
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Hi,
yes it can be done(provided you can fit it in!), would be difficult to use the standard ECU though so you would need to use emerald, MBE or megasuirt
etc.
pretty sure the intake system from a zetec engines escort can be used, and give a bit more clearance, not sure exactley which model though.
what about using carbs??.
Ray
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coozer
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| posted on 27/8/06 at 04:20 PM |
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The original Ford intake is huge. It either hangs down the side or flows over the top of the cam cover.
I believe this all gets in the way of the drop link on the steering. I'm sure I saw a Robin Hood at Newark with the standard intake on
though.
The standard Ford ECU controls everything on the car, windows, locks, etc, etc and more importantly the immobiliser. Get it wrong and it will never
start!
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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roadboy
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| posted on 27/8/06 at 04:25 PM |
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Cheapest way would be to make up your own tubular intake plenum & use standard injectors, throttle body etc although you would need an aftermarket
ECU.
A few companies market these ie Griffin but PPC mag did an article on a make your own system for a crossflow wich is similar.
If you need ECu give us a call.
Regds
Ian
Jude Performance Services
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Mave
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| posted on 27/8/06 at 05:07 PM |
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No, no, no, no, no, you don't need an aftermarket ECU! (at least not with a silver top Zetec). Mine works perfectly with the standard ECU.
You'll probably run into a space problem with the Mondeo inlet manifold, as it will probably interfere with your steering shaft (mine is LHD so
no problem).
I did make a dedicated inlet manifold by using a cut up Escort manifold, just because I liked to do it. It's easy, trust me.
This is definately a cheap and very well working way to use a Zetec!
You could always upgrade later on of course, but this set-up already gives you 137 bhp to play with.
Marcel
www.mk-indy.nl
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/8/06 at 05:08 PM |
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Another less restrictive route is to use the induction system off a 2 litre Rover T16 engine (as fitted to the Rover 820 and 220) , this can be bolted
on via an alloy adaptor plate whichcan be bought off the shelf but are expensive at about 80 pounds or can be made by hand.
The Rover ports line to the Zetec head almost perfecly.
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roadboy
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| posted on 27/8/06 at 05:16 PM |
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Sorry don't know how to do the quotes thing, it was not touting for business. I give advice for free parts cost money
Regds
Ian
Jude Performance Services
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scotty g
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| posted on 27/8/06 at 05:56 PM |
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Trident, tell me more about the Rover stuff and the adaptor plate, whats that off? always looking for cheaper ways to do stuff.
Cheers.
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Rich_T
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| posted on 28/8/06 at 06:30 AM |
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Using the Rover setup sounds like a good alternative, I may be able to scrounge one as well. The early Mondeos dont all have a chipped key for the
Imobiliser, mine hasnt so that shouldnt pose any problems and from memory the wiring is pretty much self contained, requiring an eart plus a couple of
feeds (its been about 10 years since I worked on them). Ive got the injection setup off a silvertop escort engine however it would sit quite a bit
higher than the Mondeos.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 28/8/06 at 03:44 PM |
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Nothing really much to tell about the Rover conversion you just need to make or buy a thick alloy adaptor plate to sit between the manifold and the
head because the studs don't line up. Donor for manifold can be any Rover with the MPi or Turbo T16 engine how much clearance is available for
master cylinders and steering shaft will depend on you chassis.
see http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=43103
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david walker
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| posted on 30/8/06 at 07:32 PM |
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Me again!
Mave is spot on. There is no reason that the std ecu can't be used. Fabricate a log type alloy manifold, fit the the throttle body and all other
sensors etc and it will work fine. The whole unit can be fitted comfortably within the confines of a 7 type engine bay.
You don't say what size engine but if an 1800, fit 2 litre 130ps cams and the larger 2.0 throttle body. The Ford Ecu will accomodate what is a
relatively small change and you should see pushing 140bhp.
Dave Walker, Race Engine Services - 07957 454659 or 01636 671277
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Werner Van Loock
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| posted on 1/9/06 at 08:59 PM |
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The following is a drawing and picture of what griffinpower is offering, but can be made easily yourself.
 
Zetec manifold/plenum
 
zetec manifold/plenum
[Edited on 1/9/06 by Werner Van Loock]
http://www.clubstylus.be
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