J1MMY
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| posted on 31/1/07 at 10:48 AM |
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Quick bellhousing Q
Ok picked up something interesting to fettle..... I knew it wouldnt be a "buy and drive" scenario!
I've read somewhere that Bellhousings to fit type 9's to 1.8t VAG engines are being made but I can't find the place where I read
it.....so can anyone give me more info?
Cheers muchly
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James
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| posted on 31/1/07 at 10:50 AM |
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I've kept my eye out for info on this... but never seen anything.
Donkervoort in Holland use the 1.8T in their cars... maybe some mileage in contacting them?
Cheers,
James
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UncleFista
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| posted on 31/1/07 at 11:01 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by J1MMY
Ok picked up something interesting to fettle..... I knew it wouldnt be a "buy and drive" scenario!
I've read somewhere that Bellhousings to fit type 9's to 1.8t VAG engines are being made but I can't find the place where I read
it.....so can anyone give me more info?
Cheers muchly
I've heard that the bellhousing is available from the Westfield distributor in Holland (who designed the conversion). It's not meant to be
cheap though...
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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3GEComponents
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| posted on 31/1/07 at 11:40 AM |
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Try this thread, they're about £350+
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=58308
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miegru
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| posted on 31/1/07 at 01:37 PM |
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Donkervoort or HKT (German seven builder that uses the audi lumP) won't sell you one. Lots have tried.
I even checked with the company that used to make them for Donkervoort. They were willing to run a batch but the pricing only went below 1000Euro by
ordering a minimum of 25. If I would order 75 the price would drop to 500Euro but after that the price drop was really marginal......did't go
for that. Hope you understand...
When I talked with Kronenburg (who delivered my engine and management) they told me they would make one for 300 Euro. Below a copy of a reply to
another tread some time ago.
"I couldn't find a bellhousing between my Audi and my type9 box. Turned out to be simple.
Van Kronenburg made a bellhouse for me in 90minutes!
They took an old Audi gearbox casing (with bellhouse intergrated) that fitted my engine. Since Audi has a wide choice I spend some time choosing the
donor-casing (correct starterposition and as slim design as possible).
They then checked the spline pattern on the clutch. Turned out ford uses the same as audi so no problem. Otherwise you might have to machine the
flywheel to accept a clutchplate that fits the gearbox spline pattern).
The bellhouse/gearbox case (one piece)was secured on a CNC machine (nothing digital or fancy; just a good old manual machine) engine side down. The
bellhous/gearbox was machined down to the correct height.
Next step was to weld a plate onto the machine side. Audi uses aluminium gearbox cases so a 15mm alu plate was used.
The complete part was again secured to the CNC machine. By using the engine mounting pattern as a reference the holes for the gearbox were machined
into the plate.
Only 90 minutes and dead accurate!
Next step was making it loop pretty and finishing all the welds. But that last part can be done by you.
If you don't know anyone who can do this I advise to check with an engine tuner with a engine dynamometer. They need to do this all the time in
order to get different engines attached to their dynamometer.
Good luck!
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miegru
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| posted on 31/1/07 at 01:42 PM |
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Ah...forgot.
Some of the original quattros and some specials since have a separate bellhouse and gearbox. Audi used this for their high power specials since it is
iron instead of alu. These bellhouses are dead heavy so I didn't want to use them. They do fit the 1.8T althought it took me some time to find a
fitting starter (it's amazing how many different starters audi have used in the last 10 years. Be carefull with this!).
The bellhousing being iron it might be easier to match to a type 9 with more simple welding skills like mine.
But beware; it really is heavy (I estimated it heavier as the original ford iron bellhouse)
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J1MMY
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| posted on 1/2/07 at 12:23 PM |
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Interesting stuff.......will send a few emails and see what happens
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AlphaX
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| posted on 3/2/07 at 07:51 PM |
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a type9 won't hold the power of a 1.8t. We've developed an adapterplate for the 1.8t to meet a MT75. see website
Cheers
AlphaX
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