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cloudy

posted on 16/9/08 at 01:18 PM Reply With Quote
Using Oil cooler for water?

Due to the extortionate prices of all the alloy water radiators I can find I was thinking of using one of these:

http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=340_367&products_id=2261

With the 3/4" BSP connections - do you think it would flow enough water to not be restrictive?

PS. If anyone know of anywhere to buy similar sized alloy radiators for sub £100 please let me know! Rally design's all seem to be around £300!!

James





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nick205

posted on 16/9/08 at 01:32 PM Reply With Quote
Just wondering wy it has to be ally?

Does it need to be a particular size/shape?

A standard Polo or Micra rad with ally core and plastic end tanks can be had brand new for £40-50.






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02GF74

posted on 16/9/08 at 01:37 PM Reply With Quote
look at www.thinkauto.com

they do up to 60 row, but stop listing price at 44 row which is, sit down first, a mere 155 + VAT.

thinkauto make them so in theory should be cheaper than RD.

this question bout using oil cooler for water came up before - do a search - and I think the consensus was that it was not a top idea - the oil coolers run at much higher pressure so have thicker tube hence no so good at transferring heat. dunno what engine you have but that oil cooler is on the small side.

what is wring with a polo radiator? the core is alumumiunm alloy - you specifically wnat header tank to be alloy? why?

I'd be concerned about the pipe diameters - 3/4 bsp OD is 26.9 mm OD so ID is even less; compare that to a 32 mm OD radiator pipe ~ 60 % smaller.

[Edited on 16/9/08 by 02GF74]






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02GF74

posted on 16/9/08 at 01:53 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
If anyone know of anywhere to buy similar sized alloy radiators for sub £100 please let me know! Rally design's all seem to be around £300!!


forget the shite that 02 person wronte above, ebay is your answer
here

seach for aluminium radiator - loads pop up, mostly under £ 150.

I'd strongly recommend you buy a proper water radatior than oil coolers.






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Mr Whippy

posted on 16/9/08 at 02:11 PM Reply With Quote
at least a flying stone won't burst it






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BenB

posted on 16/9/08 at 02:46 PM Reply With Quote
An oil cooler will take water (or that's what I'm lead to believe- hope so I'm using one as a heater matrix)..... As said though it'll be over-spec'd and perhaps won't shift heat as well as a water radiator....

What's wrong with a £30 Polo radiator???

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cloudy

posted on 16/9/08 at 05:17 PM Reply With Quote
To clarify, I will be using two - I have a water cooled GSXR1100 that has a water rad and oil rad. Was thinking of using a smaller one for the oil and a large one for the water - The hose connections are pretty small ID on the original bike....

They will be on display either side of the car, so I don't want it to look like there's part's of polo stuck on! I'm also fairly limited on space...





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02GF74

posted on 17/9/08 at 11:51 AM Reply With Quote
^^^ ok so BEC then.

what about using two smaller bike engine radiators, one on each side and oil cooler infront of one of them?

the ali rads I pointed to sound like they will be too large.

i'd still be concerend about efficiency of an oil cooler being used to cool water though and I don;t know how oil coolers compare to water radiators. you want to know in advacne that what you are fitting will do the job or else it will get expensive.

I think thinkauto have a graph showing efficiency of cooling that may be of some use.






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cloudy

posted on 17/9/08 at 02:21 PM Reply With Quote
The thinkauto ones seem very expensive - 125 inc vat vs £78 inc vat at rally design for a 25 row one

Am I looking at the wrong range?

I've looked and looked on ebay but can't find any small enough!

James





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Mix

posted on 17/9/08 at 03:38 PM Reply With Quote
Hi

Why not think outside of the box and look at heater matrices?

Just a thought.

Regards Mick

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02GF74

posted on 19/9/08 at 07:22 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
The thinkauto ones seem very expensive - 125 inc vat vs £78 inc vat at rally design for a 25 row one

Am I looking at the wrong range?



no you're not; I too noticed the RD one is very cheap compared to TA. (it could be a misprint)

Those 2 companies selling ali rads on ebay - pop them a question if they can do a smaller rad; you may be pleasantly surprised.






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MikeCapon

posted on 19/9/08 at 12:40 PM Reply With Quote
As already suggested have a look at bike rads. If you're looking for particularly small rads have a look at something like the Africa Twin. This bike has two small rads, one on each side of the frame in front of the fuel tank.

This is a Transalp but pretty much the same deal.


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