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To get us started... gearbox and clutch query
ChrisW - 16/10/01 at 11:54 PM

Here's one to get us started!

I'm (hoping) to use a FWD 1300 X-flow engine in my Locost (from an Escort Mk3) coupled to an Escort Mk2 4 speed box which I have from a previous project.

However, although the bell housing looks like it will line up the clutch spline on the gearbox side doesn't fit. Has anyone tried this? What clutch did you use? Did it work?

ChrisW (Webmaster)


Willie - 18/10/01 at 02:46 PM

Chris,

I'm nearly 100% sure about this, I don't think the Kent Xflow was fitted in the FWD Escorts (MK3+). Only the MK1/2 escorts were fitted with the Kent. The engine in the MK3 is called a Valencia. And to tell the truth, the Valencia is not a very nice engine at all ("Only good for an anchor" as a fellow Locoster says).

Of course, I may be wrong...maybe some of the MK3s were fitted with Kents. If so not doubt someone will correct me.

The engine casting ID number, which is down below the exhaust manifold on the Kent is 711M6015AA for the 1300. So if that's the number on your engine it's a Kent and I'm wrong (Or else it's not from a FWD Escort)...and if it's not the number...well it's not a 1300 Kent.

1600 is 711M6015BA

Hope that helps. I can't help much on the 'box problem...I'm using a 1300 XFlow to a Sierra Type 9 gearbag.


ChrisW - 18/10/01 at 03:30 PM

Willie

Thanks for that - I've never heard of a 'Valencia' engine. It certainly looks like the same sort of x-flow that was in my old mk2 'scorts but I've noticed that it is narrower (or shorter in RWD terms!) than the 1300 head I have from a Mk2 Escort.

I'll check the numbers when I get home this evening. It was definatly from a FWD Escort because the shell was taken away this morning although I'm afraid the time of night I wrote that last message meant I called it a Mk3 when in fact it was a Mk4 (on an E plate).

On an (almost) seperate point, can you confirm if a 1.3 CVH was ever fitted to Escort mk3's... just to settle an office argument!

Chris


Willie - 18/10/01 at 06:24 PM

You should notice that the rocker cover on the Valencia is flat topped, whereas on the Kent it is more Rounded & Wedge Shaped. The Valencia was fitted to the MK3/4 Escorts, so it's quite possible that's what you've got.

You can of course use the Valencia, but it wouldn't be my choice of engine. You may have noticed quite a few rattly/spluttery MK3/4 Escorts on the road, and performance parts aren't very available (If available) for it.

Plus, I'm in N.Ireland so no very, very little about the 750 Race Series...but I'd be pretty sure you'd have to be using a 1300 Kent Xflow to compete in the series...if that is your intention for the car.

As for the CVH 1300...yep, they where used in the MK3 Escort too.

Willie


ChrisW - 18/10/01 at 10:02 PM

Willie

The number is 86BM6015BA. Different to the number you gave so does that confirm your suspicion?

Chris


Willie - 18/10/01 at 11:59 PM

Erm, well one things for sure anyway...it's not a 1300 Kent Xflow! Sorry, but I don't actually have the ID number for the Valencia.

You could try asking on the Yahoo forumn as there are some very, very knowlegable guys on it who might know the number for the engine. That's one thing would be very advantageous...a list of Ford & Other engine ID numbers which are commonly used in Locosts.

Sorry I can't help...I'll have a look about and if I find out what that is the number for I'll let you know.

Willie


ChrisW - 19/10/01 at 12:43 PM

Thanks for that Willie

Can you just confirm I understand the whole naming thing right - the mk2 Escort had a Kent Crossflow but I (probably) have a Valencia Crossflow?

Is that right or is my engine nothing to do with a x-flow? Certainly looked like one!

Chris


Willie - 19/10/01 at 01:53 PM

Yep. The title crossflow comes from the inlet coming into the head on one side, and the exhaust exiting the head on the other...it's a crossflow. Therefore Kents, Valencias, Pintos etc are all Crossflows.

If you want to give me your email address I'll email you a picture of a 1300 Kent Xflow (Actually in a Locost chassis, don't know who's). So you'll see what the Kent looks like and recognise it again.

Willie
willie_skelly@hotmail.com


ChrisW - 19/10/01 at 04:38 PM

That would be good Willie. Hit the email link at the bottom of this message or my address is chris@chrisw.net

Cheers!

Chris


EA82T - 19/12/01 at 12:12 PM

Chris did you get the clutch issue sorted?

Simon


ChrisW - 19/12/01 at 01:13 PM

No, not yet. Need to figure it out soon though!

Chris


James - 27/2/07 at 11:19 PM

A good start?


http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=61340&page=1


Cheers,
James

[Edited on 27/2/07 by James]


goodall - 27/2/07 at 11:30 PM

maybe it needs to have a reply also


gazza285 - 27/2/07 at 11:50 PM

What is the point of draging this up?

Stuff like this will just clutter up the site even more than now and will ultimately achieve nothing.

Can you all delete the recent postings and send this one back to the archive.


James - 28/2/07 at 02:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by gazza285
What is the point of draging this up?

Stuff like this will just clutter up the site even more than now and will ultimately achieve nothing.

Can you all delete the recent postings and send this one back to the archive.


The point, as I highlighted in the 'Delete MCOB Petition' thread, was an experiment to see if it would become the 'longest running thread' instead. And therefore we could remove any potential insult to new visitors to the site *without* deleting/trashing the MCOB thread.
A valid experiment I feel bearing in mind how hard it is to get changes implemented.
Granted it didn't work.... but I didn't know that before!

Hardly the greatest crime in the world- trying to come up with a compromise is it! I would suggest there are plenty of other posts that 'clutter' the site more than a valid question about clutches!

BR,
James

[Edited on 28/2/07 by James]