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4" Headlights
Big Jay - 7/9/06 at 09:23 PM

Hi , I'm after some 4" headlights for my Indy. Anybody have any to sell or know where I can get them from? Cheers


iank - 7/9/06 at 10:09 PM

I don't believe there are any that currently pass SVA.

See "Steve @ sVc"'s comments here:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=46157

Premier sell some 110mm lights, but I understand they come from a motorbike so dip incorrectly (I had a peek at the lenses at Harrogate and couldn't see an arrow pointing to the right)

http://www.premierwiring.co.uk/index.php?module=Website&action=Text&content=1133393686882-8823&parentContent=1133392767901-3830


Kissy - 8/9/06 at 10:39 AM

I think the 4" are as supplied by GTS too.

Somebody on here had some dead sexy compact twin lamp unit, which IIRC were from some custom bike/car site. I doubt they were SVA, but if anybody recalls them I'd be grateful.

When I MOT'd 2 years ago I discovered then that my Cibie Bi-Oscars (with s/lamp) were r/h dipping; the obliging MOT tester just got some black tape and 'adjusted' them a la holiday in mainland Europe!


Steve @ sVc - 12/9/06 at 04:18 PM

Situation has not changed from my last posting about smaller lensed headlights. I'm still asking lighting companies if they know of any lenses that have main bean and dip and are UK legal - the answer is still no.
I have asked 3 companies that supply the smaller lights into the kit car market if they can state that the lights are UK legal. One would not comment and two said no they weren't.
Don't think my product liability insurance would cover my selling not road legal lighting, knowingly!!
However - if anyone out there knows of a lens, we will make a housing for it.

Steve @ sVc


iank - 12/9/06 at 06:49 PM

Been having a think (dangerous I know) based on your liability insurance comment.

How would an insurance company deal with a kit that had non SVA lights fitted post test? Assuming the accident had happened at night, if the other driver said they'd been dazzled I suspect things could get ugly. Hearing stories about some insurance companies wriggling to find a way to avoid paying out I'd expect some to use it against you even during the day.


tks - 12/9/06 at 07:21 PM

does some H4 headlight wich are bigger then 100mm..

i use them..

Tks


Steve @ sVc - 13/9/06 at 07:42 AM

iank. Re your comments about insurance.

There was a posting on the Westfield site (sorry to use the "W" word so early in the morning), a couple of years ago by a guy who worked as insurance assessor.

He warned against the use of 4" lights for just that reason. If you modify your car (he said) in a way that the insurance comapny could say made it not road legal, they could claim that you had made the insurance invalid and walk away from any claim.

Would an insurance company do that, do you think ?

You bet they would if they thought they could !

Steve @ sVc


tks - 13/9/06 at 11:47 AM

that the bosch ones are E marked etc.!!!!


Hellfire - 13/9/06 at 11:54 AM

Seems to me that there is definitely a market out there for smaller headlights. Steve, can you not convince the lense manufacturers to do a low volume run of smaller lenses that have main beam and dip and are UK legal, just to test the market?

Or have you already tried and it's not quite that simple?

Phil


iank - 13/9/06 at 12:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tks
that the bosch ones are E marked etc.!!!!


Presumably you are planning on driving on the right, so right dippers are what you want.

IIRC the 4 inch ones have an e mark - motorbike lights have to be tested and given an e mark, though I'm not sure if the testing is exactly the same.

There should be an arrow pointing in the direction of the dip (a few have a bidirectional arrow meaning can be adjusted to do either). No arrow means dip is straight down.


tks - 13/9/06 at 12:08 PM

but anyway if you have two of them cant you just swap them to give england rules??

Tks


iank - 13/9/06 at 12:22 PM

No, can't just swap them - unless you want to dip upwards to signal passing UFOs


Steve @ sVc - 13/9/06 at 04:01 PM

Yes Phil – I agree and I’m still trying to get a company to make some 4” lenses – the problem is when I say 2 to 3 thousand a year they walk away.
Think I saw you at Harrogate – sorry I didn’t come over to say hello but we were a bit rushed (sign of a good show!).

As far as I know, motorbike lights that are fitted to the front forks, and so move with the steering, dip down. Those that fit fairings dip left and have the arrow moulded into the inner face of the lens. Both are “E” marked, but as a guy at GTS said to me about their lights “We never said they were “E” marked for CARS!”