Just read this in Kit Car about the new Onyx Bugatti replica:
"Well, though this car is registered and taxed, it's been registered as a prototype and consequently hasn't been submitted to an SVA
test"
How do you get away with that?
I was looking at that some time back and although it looks a nice build I could not see how it would pass SVA. Maybe its being driven on trade
plates.
I also saw some custom cars and hot rods at a meet and none of them had correct reg , most of the model t type rods had tax disks from old fords
reading something like 2 axle rigid body tax exempt.Others were just blatantly incorrectly registered as Ford cortinas etc on the tax disks.
Paul
i think the likes of aston etc are allowed to build prototype cars and test them on the road without any sort of testing? never heard of a new aston
going through IVA.
as a 'manufacturer' maybe onyx are able to take use of a loophole?
Yep, from what I understand, you can use prototypes on the road, without any testing, MOT or tax. They are still registered however.
They are registered for testing purposes only - that means that if you get stopped you have to prove that you are carrying out some sort of vehicle
testing (which to be fair is not that difficult).
Jag/Land Rover has loads of these. However, insurance on these vehicles only covers the immediate employees carrying out the tests (which means
technically you can't borrow this vehicle to take the kids to school).
Rules created for large manufacturers, but clearly abused by others.
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Originally posted by PSpirine
Yep, from what I understand, you can use prototypes on the road, without any testing, MOT or tax. They are still registered however.
They are registered for testing purposes only - that means that if you get stopped you have to prove that you are carrying out some sort of vehicle testing (which to be fair is not that difficult).
Jag/Land Rover has loads of these. However, insurance on these vehicles only covers the immediate employees carrying out the tests (which means technically you can't borrow this vehicle to take the kids to school).
Rules created for large manufacturers, but clearly abused by others.
yeah - neighbour had one in his drive the other week. I was wondering what 'testing' he was doing and how he got to do it.
So rather than the IVA, you could register your car as a "Prototype" as long as you dont plan to sell it!
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Originally posted by MakeEverything
So rather than the IVA, you could register your car as a "Prototype" as long as you dont plan to sell it!
So, my car is a one off, sits in the garage most of the year and comes out for a good 'testing' every now and then.
That mean I've missed a trick and wasted my time with SVA?
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Originally posted by coozer
So, my car is a one off, sits in the garage most of the year and comes out for a good 'testing' every now and then.
That mean I've missed a trick and wasted my time with SVA?
This is a loop hole introduced fairly recently.
Cars submitted for crash testing by manufacturers are subsidised by the testing authority. To cut costs, cars over a certain list price have been
deemed exempt from crash testing.
I would have thought it more likely it's based on a production ladder chassis and just rebodied? No SVA as the chassis is unchanged...
Then again - maybe not...
http://www.onyxsportscars.f9.co.uk/id21.htm
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Originally posted by jimmyjoebob
This is a loop hole introduced fairly recently.
Cars submitted for crash testing by manufacturers are subsidised by the testing authority. To cut costs, cars over a certain list price have been deemed exempt from crash testing.
I think the prototype registering only applies if you're a fairly hefty manufacturer. I imagine we've got some special insurance policy
cover for all those rovers running around too. Although there's nothing stopping you sticking psychedelic stickers all over your car!
Fortunately, "testing" can include things like evaluation for squeaks and rattles, handling with a load full of people/tools/shopping,
operation of the air conditioning etc.
So not very difficult to explain why you're testing it!
Also, if you are thinking of registering a prototype for testing.. just imagine the phonecall to your insurance company... "well.. it's not
really road legal you see... but I do a fair bit of testing.."
As for the crash testing.. the value of the car is negligible compared to the cost of having a full crash-test approval carried out, even if it's
a range rover autobiography!
[Edited on 8/7/10 by PSpirine]
I hadn't really read accurately what had been written before - my comment was stating what I had been informed was another grey area that had
been created recently. I thought we were creating a list...
As with most things I read in the media it probably isn't true but it seemed plausible.
I should have ended my first line with a ':' (I won't try to spell it or I will embarrass myself further!).
[Edited on 8/7/10 by jimmyjoebob]