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Simon - 11/7/12 at 08:43 PM

1973 MGBGT for restoration with 1969 bgt v5 and vin plates (tax exempt) | eBay

I think this is reportable - 73 car with plates etc from 69 car. Please confirm before I embarass meself

Cheers

ATB

Simon

mark chandler - 11/7/12 at 08:58 PM

I read it as selling a 73 MGB with registration, he is also throwing in another reg document for a 69 car.

It does not say clone me.

Benzine - 11/7/12 at 09:01 PM

dodgy

plentywahalla - 11/7/12 at 09:32 PM

He is not doing anything illegal. He is just providing the means for a buyer to do so!

Could be done for conspiracy I suppose.

maccmike - 11/7/12 at 09:51 PM

nowt wrong with that

blakep82 - 11/7/12 at 09:55 PM

well, if thats the biggest worry in your world, go for it.
i've got bigger problems and worries of my own, than whether or not the stuff people i don't know on ebay are selling stuff to people i've never met, is being sold legally tbh

paulf - 11/7/12 at 09:55 PM

It may be illegal but what harm is it going to do?apart from depriving the government of a few quid .The vin plate is just riveted on on an MGB and if it was swapped over there is absolutely no way of any one telling it is not the original vehicle , at least he is being honest and not just swapping it before hand to make selling easier.
Paul

plentywahalla - 11/7/12 at 10:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by paulf
It may be illegal but what harm is it going to do?apart from depriving the government of a few quid .The vin plate is just riveted on on an MGB and if it was swapped over there is absolutely no way of any one telling it is not the original vehicle , at least he is being honest and not just swapping it before hand to make selling easier.
Paul


Absolutely no way of telling???

There are many ways.

Firstly unless the other vehicle was exactly the same colour it will always be possible to prove it was never the original registered vehicle cololur.

Secondly hundreds of minor components will be date stamped with their date of manufacture.

Thirdly there was a model change in 1972 with many detail changes.

steve m - 11/7/12 at 10:15 PM

Ive done it in the past with Mini's and i expect millions of others have done it
personly, i could not give a hoot

paulf - 11/7/12 at 10:18 PM

Yes there were a few changes between the mk 1 and 2 models but many older cars have had new grills, steering wheel interior trim etc fitted as up grades, I dont remember seeing any plastic mouldings with date stamps or anything else for that matter on the one I owned for many years.
Paul

quote:
Originally posted by plentywahalla
quote:
Originally posted by paulf
It may be illegal but what harm is it going to do?apart from depriving the government of a few quid .The vin plate is just riveted on on an MGB and if it was swapped over there is absolutely no way of any one telling it is not the original vehicle , at least he is being honest and not just swapping it before hand to make selling easier.
Paul


Absolutely no way of telling???

There are many ways.

Firstly unless the other vehicle was exactly the same colour it will always be possible to prove it was never the original registered vehicle cololur.

Secondly hundreds of minor components will be date stamped with their date of manufacture.

Thirdly there was a model change in 1972 with many detail changes.

Chippy - 11/7/12 at 10:23 PM

I think that the following extract makes it totaly legal, it's just what the buyer does, or does not that could be illegal. IMHO Ray

Also included in the sale is a current V5 and vin plates for a 1969 tax exempt BGT
theses are of course only for historical interest and should not be used to re identify a different BGT as Tax exempt

Benzine - 11/7/12 at 10:27 PM

1: steal someone's pride and joy
2: change identity and vanish into the ether

How gutted would you feel? Ringing is ringing and it's against ebay rules to sell a V5 without a car.

wylliezx9r - 11/7/12 at 10:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Simon
1973 MGBGT for restoration with 1969 bgt v5 and vin plates (tax exempt) | eBay

I think this is reportable - 73 car with plates etc from 69 car. Please confirm before I embarass meself

Cheers

ATB

Simon


Have you nothing better to do with your life ? Who gives a poo !

[Edited on 11/7/12 by wylliezx9r]

joni - 12/7/12 at 06:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by wylliezx9r
quote:
Originally posted by Simon
1973 MGBGT for restoration with 1969 bgt v5 and vin plates (tax exempt) | eBay

I think this is reportable - 73 car with plates etc from 69 car. Please confirm before I embarass meself

Cheers

ATB

Simon


Have you nothing better to do with your life ? Who gives a poo !

[Edited on 11/7/12 by wylliezx9r]



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Peteff - 12/7/12 at 07:47 AM

Now if it was a Dutton logbook

slingshot2000 - 12/7/12 at 08:49 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
1: steal someone's pride and joy
2: change identity and vanish into the ether

How gutted would you feel? Ringing is ringing and it's against ebay rules to sell a V5 without a car.



^+1,

and to further quote another poster,

Quote,,Have you nothing better to do with your life ? Who gives a poo !

[Edited on 11/7/12 by wylliezx9r]

Maybe you would give a poo if it was your pride and joy that had been rung !

Regards
Jon

chillis - 12/7/12 at 09:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
I read it as selling a 73 MGB with registration, he is also throwing in another reg document for a 69 car.

It does not say clone me.


I agree, He's not selling the '73 as being a '69 tax exempt.

Since pretty much all parts are available to build an MBG then you could build the car from just the log book and plates as the requirement is original parts or direct like for like new replacement. So you could start with a heritage bodyshell, reconned engine and box etc, all perfectly legit. It would be the recreation of the original car.