Originally posted by Humbug
... when Ireland was part of the United Kingdom
Now I know I may be being a bit petty but as a public figure/TV presenter shouldn't Eddie Jordan be wearing a poppy? The others are after all.
Eddie was born in Ireland. Unless he has changed citizenship he presumably still has Irish nationality and is not a Brit. Few non Brits wear poppies even when they appear on telly. Ireland were technically neutral in the second world war.
He was wearing a small (magnetic/metal? maybe) one last week.
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Originally posted by Dusty
Eddie was born in Ireland. Unless he has changed citizenship he presumably still has Irish nationality and is not a Brit. Few non Brits wear poppies even when they appear on telly. Ireland were technically neutral in the second world war.
Many people think poppies should be worn from 1 November until Armistice Day on 11 November.
Phil
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Originally posted by Humbug
... when Ireland was part of the United Kingdom
Approximately 50,000 volunteers (a noticeable proportion of a 2.5 million population) from Ireland served with the British forces in the 2nd World
War, 4 of them being awarded Victoria Crosses. Still, I can see how the poppy would be seen as by many Irish people as a British thing.
There's a rather wierd attitude toward Britain in Ireland, mostly friendly but with an occasional sort of undercurrent of ill feeling. Strange
considering how many Irish people live in England.
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Originally posted by interestedparty
There's a rather wierd attitude toward Britain in Ireland, mostly friendly but with an occasional sort of undercurrent of ill feeling. Strange considering how many Irish people live in England.
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Originally posted by scootz
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Originally posted by interestedparty
There's a rather wierd attitude toward Britain in Ireland, mostly friendly but with an occasional sort of undercurrent of ill feeling. Strange considering how many Irish people live in England.
It's not weird at all... the British have done some pretty nasty things to the Irish - some of it in living history.
Isn't it a personal choice?
Don't shoot me down, I'm just saying.
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Originally posted by scootz
And that's why he's probably not wearing one!
We get the same debate year in / out at Celtic FC amongst a very small section of the fans. This minority consider that the team should not wear the Poppy on the playing shirt as it could be seen as disrespectful to the (huge) Irish section of the support (the logic being that some of them may still be resentful of the treatment of their forefathers by the British army).
The club always take the stance that it's a Scottish club, so the Poppy will be worn.... the media know this will always be the stance, but they lap up the murmurings of discontent amongst the vocal minority and use it to whip up a sectarian-storm in a "will-they-or-wont-they-wear-a-poppy" non-debate every year!
Does my nut in!
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Originally posted by scootz
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Originally posted by interestedparty
There's a rather wierd attitude toward Britain in Ireland, mostly friendly but with an occasional sort of undercurrent of ill feeling. Strange considering how many Irish people live in England.
It's not weird at all... the British have done some pretty nasty things to the Irish - some of it in living history.
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Originally posted by blakep82
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Originally posted by scootz
And that's why he's probably not wearing one!
We get the same debate year in / out at Celtic FC amongst a very small section of the fans. This minority consider that the team should not wear the Poppy on the playing shirt as it could be seen as disrespectful to the (huge) Irish section of the support (the logic being that some of them may still be resentful of the treatment of their forefathers by the British army).
The club always take the stance that it's a Scottish club, so the Poppy will be worn.... the media know this will always be the stance, but they lap up the murmurings of discontent amongst the vocal minority and use it to whip up a sectarian-storm in a "will-they-or-wont-they-wear-a-poppy" non-debate every year!
Does my nut in!
have to say, iwas disgusted by the banners last week, but you know...
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Originally posted by zilspeed
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Originally posted by scootz
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Originally posted by interestedparty
There's a rather wierd attitude toward Britain in Ireland, mostly friendly but with an occasional sort of undercurrent of ill feeling. Strange considering how many Irish people live in England.
It's not weird at all... the British have done some pretty nasty things to the Irish - some of it in living history.
And it's all much too long winded and complicated to be dealt with in here without people becoming majorly upset.
On Both Sides.
Let's leave it alone, I would suggest.
As you were
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Originally posted by Dangle_kt
Isn't it a personal choice?
Don't shoot me down, I'm just saying.
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Originally posted by scootz
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Originally posted by Humbug
... when Ireland was part of the United Kingdom
And that's why he's probably not wearing one!
We get the same debate year in / out at Celtic FC amongst a very small section of the fans. This minority consider that the team should not wear the Poppy on the playing shirt as it could be seen as disrespectful to the (huge) Irish section of the support (the logic being that some of them may still be resentful of the treatment of their forefathers by the British army).
The club always take the stance that it's a Scottish club, so the Poppy will be worn.... the media know this will always be the stance, but they lap up the murmurings of discontent amongst the vocal minority and use it to whip up a sectarian-storm in a "will-they-or-wont-they-wear-a-poppy" non-debate every year!
Does my nut in!
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Originally posted by Confused but excited.
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Originally posted by scootz
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Originally posted by Humbug
... when Ireland was part of the United Kingdom
And that's why he's probably not wearing one!
We get the same debate year in / out at Celtic FC amongst a very small section of the fans. This minority consider that the team should not wear the Poppy on the playing shirt as it could be seen as disrespectful to the (huge) Irish section of the support (the logic being that some of them may still be resentful of the treatment of their forefathers by the British army).
The club always take the stance that it's a Scottish club, so the Poppy will be worn.... the media know this will always be the stance, but they lap up the murmurings of discontent amongst the vocal minority and use it to whip up a sectarian-storm in a "will-they-or-wont-they-wear-a-poppy" non-debate every year!
Does my nut in!
"Get me a Bovril!"
[Edited on 13/11/10 by Confused but excited.]
Surely if EJ wants or doesn't want to wear a poppy he should be entirly free to do so either way, for all we know he might have simply forgotten or left on on a jacket. I sincerly doubt he was making any kind of political statement.
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Originally posted by scootz
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Originally posted by Confused but excited.
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Originally posted by scootz
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Originally posted by Humbug
... when Ireland was part of the United Kingdom
And that's why he's probably not wearing one!
We get the same debate year in / out at Celtic FC amongst a very small section of the fans. This minority consider that the team should not wear the Poppy on the playing shirt as it could be seen as disrespectful to the (huge) Irish section of the support (the logic being that some of them may still be resentful of the treatment of their forefathers by the British army).
The club always take the stance that it's a Scottish club, so the Poppy will be worn.... the media know this will always be the stance, but they lap up the murmurings of discontent amongst the vocal minority and use it to whip up a sectarian-storm in a "will-they-or-wont-they-wear-a-poppy" non-debate every year!
Does my nut in!
"Get me a Bovril!"
[Edited on 13/11/10 by Confused but excited.]
Football Violence by The Big Yin by any chance???
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Originally posted by Ninehigh
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Originally posted by scootz
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Originally posted by Confused but excited.
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Originally posted by scootz
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Originally posted by Humbug
... when Ireland was part of the United Kingdom
And that's why he's probably not wearing one!
We get the same debate year in / out at Celtic FC amongst a very small section of the fans. This minority consider that the team should not wear the Poppy on the playing shirt as it could be seen as disrespectful to the (huge) Irish section of the support (the logic being that some of them may still be resentful of the treatment of their forefathers by the British army).
The club always take the stance that it's a Scottish club, so the Poppy will be worn.... the media know this will always be the stance, but they lap up the murmurings of discontent amongst the vocal minority and use it to whip up a sectarian-storm in a "will-they-or-wont-they-wear-a-poppy" non-debate every year!
Does my nut in!
"Get me a Bovril!"
[Edited on 13/11/10 by Confused but excited.]
Football Violence by The Big Yin by any chance???
You'd better leave your shoe
All (ok most of) this talk is bollocks, the simple fact is (as stated early on) HE WAS WEARING ONE.
[Edited on 14/11/10 by loggyboy]
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Originally posted by Dusty
Ireland were technically neutral in the second world war.