The missus has suggested we should get one. Prices from £400 are a bit steep - you could get a decent laptop for that - but everyone I know who has them loves them. Mostly it will be used for web browsing when the the PC is busy, plus showing photos and videos to family. What is the locostbuilders consensus on them?
there is loads of apple haters on here but i love mine! especially with all the great apps you can get!
Love mine. Got the first iPad 32gb wifi.
My opinion.... fantastic bit of kit, but waaaay over priced and I got bored after a couple of minutes. I don't own one (just had a play with
someone elses), and after a few minutes use I know I will never bother getting one. Not much long term appeal.
But everyone that has one will go to great lengths to tell you how amazing they are. Thats the bit that gets boring after a while. Guy at work starts
and I start to yawn.
It all depends on your requirements.
Decide what you want it to do, look what the various devices can do, and buy what meets your needs.
[Edited on 28/12/11 by r1_pete]
best app on them is the inbuilt scales.
Just pop it on the floor, step onto it and gives you not only your weight but your body mass index. 
I love apple products but can't see the point in the iPad it's the same as a I phone but you can't make phone calls on it it's not a laptop and has none of the features of one it's a expensive way of doing a 1/4 of the things you can do with a normal laptop.
Love it, I've got the ipad 1 wifi smallest model...
i dont have one as i cant afford one but i would have one
a friend has one and i love it, so simple to use
It really depends on what you want to do with it. OP said web browsing and photo viewing, and for that the iPad is perfect. It's not cheap, but well built and a dream to use. I was never an apple fan, but after 12 months of my iPad, I would not be without it. It lives in the living room and gets used by all the family, whether it's web browsing, tv guide apps, YouTube, forum browsing, email, kids playing games on it, it would be dearly missed!
I love mine, just a wifi model, but as well as the usual reasons, surfing, email, apps etc, I found it changes the way you use the Internet.
With a laptop you tend to use it for hours because it takes ages to start up and shutdown. With the iPad I find myself picking it up for a specific
reason and then communicating with the family again... Switch on, switch off instantly.
Oh and one of the best apps is IMDB
good lady bought one 4/5 weeks ago and loves it (and the kids) they are big money but if you do want to sell,
keep the box and bits and they are still worth strong money second hand , also think im right in saying that the ipad 3 comes out in feb so you might
want to hold out, i dont think you will regret it ....good luck
quote:
Originally posted by mark.s
good lady bought one 4/5 weeks ago and loves it (and the kids) they are big money but if you do want to sell,
keep the box and bits and they are still worth strong money second hand , also think im right in saying that the ipad 3 comes out in feb so you might want to hold out, i dont think you will regret it ....good luck
. As said above I can press the button on the iPad look something up and switch it off in less time than my dell
takes to boot up
My daughter-in-law has one - I think that they are amazingly clever and very good at what they do. However, I am not willing to pay the 'Apple
Premium' price for it.
I was in Currys today, and played with the tablets on display while my wife was sorting something out with customer service. Many of them were very
good - there are a lot of other 'fondle-slabs' available that do almost the same as the iPad, for £200 - £300 less.
But, for too many people, they're just not iPads...
[Edited on 28/12/11 by David Jenkins]
My Dad just bought a 32gb iPad 2...... at first I didn't want to have a go because I thought I'd need one afterwards...........but no, it's just a big version of my works iPhone and I don't exactly love that. If you're in no way computer geeky and don't care about flash then it's truly amazing - if you want to know what your computer/tablet is doing, want to customise it for how you want to use it OR use any web site that uses flash (and this truly kills it for me) then move away from the iPad.......
quote:
Originally posted by afj
quote:
Originally posted by mark.s
good lady bought one 4/5 weeks ago and loves it (and the kids) they are big money but if you do want to sell,
keep the box and bits and they are still worth strong money second hand , also think im right in saying that the ipad 3 comes out in feb so you might want to hold out, i dont think you will regret it ....good luck
That's the only problem, you are always waiting for the next one, I wanted a iPhone when they first came out but then I heard about the new one so waited,I'm still waiting
, im definatly having the iphone 5 ...i am
Personally Android does everything better, easier to manipulate files, photos, music etc and for half the price. Also you can connect an external hard drive etc. Just think the iPhone and iPad layout is old and cluncky now (using my work iPhone 4 compared to my personal HTC), so will def not get my cash over an alternative tablet.
quote:
Originally posted by Tiger Super Six
Personally Android does everything better, easier to manipulate files, photos, music etc and for half the price. Also you can connect an external hard drive etc. Just think the iPhone and iPad layout is old and cluncky now (using my work iPhone 4 compared to my personal HTC), so will def not get my cash over an alternative tablet.
quote:
Originally posted by probablyleon
iPad / iPhone = Porsche
quote:
Originally posted by probablyleon
Android = Nissan Skyline
ahem... not exactly the images I had in mind 
This page puts me in mind of the Golf ad' campaign on tv, even though the psychology's reversed:
"If you listen very carefully, it sounds just like a Golf."
'If you check the aps' carefully, it performs just like an iPad.'
The only difference being that the Golf ad' sells its subject on price, which the iPad can't do.
To me, the iPad is nothing in itself - its supposed to be a 'transparent' device- it just does a job and that job is to get access to the
apps/internet/email. Android pads allow you to do more customising/updating/changing/fiddling with the device itself ..... The car analagy is a good
one in a way. The iPad is like a tintop that just allows you to drive from A to B, the android etc more like a scratch built kit car. 99% of the
population just want to get from A to B so buy a tintop,e ven though you pay a lot more for similar performance.
Personally, I'd just get one - of you don't like it you'll get about 75% of your money back on ebay, which can't be said for
anything else.
Regards
Hugh
Gadget Show were talking about the forthcoming Kindle Fire? which will be half the price of the Apple.
On the subject of Apple, my youngest wanted a shuffle for Xmas, couldn't get one anywhere, even went to the Apple shop in T/Wells. "Would
you like a Nano instead?" No twathead I said a shuffle. Went to Argos and bought a couple of Creative Zen MP3 players. So impressed went back and
bought two more for me and the wife.
Re the Porsche/Nissan analogy, at the end of the day, the Porsche gets pissed all over by the GTR, it carries two less people, less luggage, is less
practical than the GTR and most people think you're a twat
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 29/12/11 by Simon]
I'm holding out for an iPad 3, an android tab just can't hack what I want to do. Theres nothing in the Android world like garage band....Ok
there is, but you try plugging a MIDI device into it and it will all but crash (if you can find a MIDI interface for one). All the music production
apps for Android seem to be loop based, the i device ones are real time recording with no slop (lag). I plug my electric guitar in to Garage band /
Ampkit or Amplitube to get real time effects vie an I rig adaptor and my keyboard in via a line 6 midi adaptor. This is all using my iPod touch, the
output gets mixed with PC sounds and it doesn't get much better. People use these for live performances, nothing running Android gets even close.
I don't yet own an iPad, but the extra real estate of the larger screen will see me coughing up for a 3 as soon as it's out.
Just my opinion
Oh and by the way, I don't like the iphone, I use an HTC Android device, far better as an actual phone!!
If I had the spare wedge, I'd have one in a momemt.
I've just got my first iphone after a couple of years of convincing myself that my old Symbian Nokia was every bit as good.
How wrong was I.
Stuff just works.
I wouldn't have it as a replacement for a laptop, but as a device to do stuff and the iphone is great. The ipad can only be more of the same.
Yes, I'm now a fan.
I spent ages not willing to spend the money then a while in all the stores trying various tablets before deciding on the Ipad and for me it just
works, nice and simple, instant on, read the news whilst eating breakfast, catchup on telly, kindle reader, social apps etc etc.
Yep they are over priced but then so is the real andriod competition.
Cheers
Tony.R
Speaking as a tech savvy IT consultant with 30 years experience of personal computers and related devices and speaking as someone who has used Linux
since the early 90's, I should be the epitome of someone who would hate the iPad and in fact Apple products in general.
However, in 2007 in a fit of despair after several years of the perpetual disappointment and missed opportunity that was "Desktop Linux" I
bought an Apple iMac on the basis that I would just use the nice hardware but run Linux and Windows etc on it instead because I was an "advanced
user" and didn't need a pretty UI and simple operating system to help me. How wrong could I be... I now almost never touch Windows and only
use Linux for server applications which is where it is best suited despite things like Ubuntu coming along since then. Something designed to
"just work" shouldn't be seen as something only for "dumb" people. There is no shame in someone tech savvy using an easy to
use device. Let's face facts - most of us have grown out of tinkering with our computers as they are a commodity item nowadays, thanks largely to
Apple ironically. Most of us are more interested in getting things done and this is where an easy to use and reliable machine is desirable.
Apple products are often described as over-priced but nothing could be more wrong. If you tear down an Apple product you will find very few
compromises in engineering. It's like the opposite of "Netbook" where every compromise in the book has been used simply to make it
cheaper. The big difference with Apple products is that the cost of building the device would be astronomical if it weren't for the economies of
scale which only Apple can currently achieve. They don't make 10,000 different variants of a given product, instead they make just enough product
variants to cater for their chosen audience and reap massive economy of scale along the way, some of which yields a healthy profit margin but a lot of
which also gives us a product which the other manufacturers can't match for the same money. I fully accept that Apple make "premium"
products but they are in no way "over priced" these days. Anyone who says differently clearly hasn't looked at it in any balanced,
factual way. Just ask the manufacturers who first tried to build an iPad competitor for anything remotely approaching the iPad price tag - they
couldn't do it and promptly pulled product from the pipeline and went back to the drawing board. Since then some cheap chinese tablets have
appeared but this is where you need to be careful to separate the words "cheap" and "good value". For example, the Macbook Air is
stunning value but isn't cheap at £850 or so. However, in 2004 I spent £970 on a PC Pro award winning Hi-Grade laptop for my wife and it is
falling apart now despite being looked after quite well. I also have an Apple Powerbook G4 from around the same timeframe and it is still going strong
and my wife now uses it instead of the Hi-Grade. Longevity can make the more expensive item better value in the longer term.
If any of you have ever taken an Apple laptop or other device apart you will understand what I mean when I say that these things are
"engineered" rather than simply "built". The quality of the chassis, screws, latches, lugs and hinges is great. The cases on
recent machines are machined from solid aluminium just like a Linn hi-fi system rather than brittle plastic which fatigues and cracks over time like
most vendors. Yes this makes it cost more but also makes it worth more after a few years and makes it actually worth selling on. The person buying
your 5 year old Apple laptop will most likely get several more years of usage out of it too. The same cannot be said of a typical Wintel laptop. The
same pattern will emerge for the current phones and tablets I suspect.
Another thing to be aware of is the continuity you get with Apple which is missing with other vendors. I have an iPad generation 1 device which I
bought in April 2010. Despite being 20 months old it still runs the latest operating system which has evolved massively since version 3.2 which was
shipped with the iPad (we are now on version 5.0.1). I can also still run all of the latest apps and they perform very nearly as well on my iPad 1 as
they do on iPad 2. I can also use the latest advances in the eco-system such as iCloud. Android devices don't tend to have the same regular
updates which leads to massive fragmentation issues. Eventually even Apple make changes which leave some devices behind but they do this in the
interests of progress where it is impractical to run the latest software on 3 or 4 year old devices. Those devices still work great but just
don't get some of the newer features. I can live with this on a 3 or 4 year old device but not on a 3 or 6 month old android tablet or
phone...
Usability is probably where Apple scores highest compared to other tablets. Just watch people using tablets in your local PC World for a good
demonstration. People using android devices often have no idea what they are doing and get frustrated quickly. People using iPads immediately get to
grips with it even with no training. Some people will retort that people are stupid if they can't use an android tablet. Steve Jobs believed that
THEY (ie. Apple) were stupid if people couldn't use the iPad. A completely different mindset and one which is reflected in the responses above in
this thread. Some people can't let go of the notion that computing should be difficult and they are uncomfortable that their specialist skills
are somehow diminished by having a device which is easy to use. Despite the fact that I run my own IT consultancy company and make a living from my
specialist knowledge, I see this as a good thing and will allow us as a species to evolve to a higher level. I grew bored with talking my Dad through
using fdisk and format many years ago when his PC hard drives failed. Now he can just type in his apple ID and restore his iPad from the cloud. I also
got bored helping him navigate directory structures. Now he just goes to his Photos app and his photos are all there.
My advice is to get an iPad and keep it for a few weeks at least, even if you find some things it won't do for you initially. There is a ton of
help available out there and I will personally help if asked. There are very few things an iPad can't do so don't take the word of anyone
who has only spent a couple of hours with one and promptly gave up out of boredom or more likely a lack of imagination. It's only really when you
start to load up your own apps & content and personalise it that it comes alive. Leave it kicking around the living room and you will use it lots.
Far more comfortable to curl up on the couch with an iPad than a laptop and browse the web. I use mine for work as well to track time on client sites,
issue invoices, track expenses, do Skype calls etc. The list keeps expanding.
Any questions, drop me an email.
Cheers,
Craig.
[Edited on 30/12/2011 by craig1410]
Craig, you are so right in every way. I have stripped my iPhone to pieces more than once (to rehouse it after cracking the shell) and the quality of components and engineering is superior to anything else out there. I was always anti Apple, but now own an iPhone, iPad & apple TV. They have all been jailbroken, allowing me to do what I want with them (rather than apple telling me what I can do) and I can honestly say I'm considering dumping my desktop PC for a mac.
Yeah watch out mate it's a slippery (or should that be frictionless) slope...
Since 2007 I have bought:
iMac 24" 2.4GHz, iPhone 3G 8GB, Time Capsule 500GB, Apple TV 2nd Gen, iPad 1 16GB WiFi, iPhone 4 32GB
Also, bought on eBay and repaired:
iBook G4 12" 800MHz, iBook G4 12" 1.3GHz, Powerbook G4 12" 1.5GHz, iPhone 3GS, iPod Touch
My current consultancy contract is with a company who won't allow me to use my own machine on site so they have given me a brand new Macbook Pro
15" with i7 processor for the duration of the contract. I can take it home and use it freely too. Saved me having to buy a machine for the job
although I'll probably get a Macbook Air 13" (or 15" if rumours are correct)
The strange thing is that I have spent less on my iMac than I would have done over the same period (4.5 years+) on an equivalent PC. By the time you
pay for the parts (especially a comparable LCD display in 2007) and get a copy of Windows and other software which comes either free or very cheap
with the Mac it soon mounts up. The killer is the fact my iMac would still sell on ebay for around £600 (£1149 new) whereas a 4+ year old PC would be
virtually worthless (maybe £150?). That's if I needed to sell it but I don't because it's still working great and is running the latest
operating system (Lion) which only cost £20 quid or so to upgrade to. The upgrade was both possible and painless which I can't say is true for
Windows and Linux upgrades from my experience.
If the above makes me a "fanboy" in some people's eyes then I shall wear that label proudly! 
Cheers,
Craig.
quote:
Originally posted by Proby
Craig, you are so right in every way. I have stripped my iPhone to pieces more than once (to rehouse it after cracking the shell) and the quality of components and engineering is superior to anything else out there. I was always anti Apple, but now own an iPhone, iPad & apple TV. They have all been jailbroken, allowing me to do what I want with them (rather than apple telling me what I can do) and I can honestly say I'm considering dumping my desktop PC for a mac.
what craig said is correct and saves me typing it,
i have i-pad 1st gen and i i-phone 4 wouldnt buy any other brand, you get what you pay for and the hold there value so in theory dont cost any more
than the opponents
Every time my email pings I expect it to be the "fandroid" counteroffensive...
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
However, in 2007 in a fit of despair after several years of the perpetual disappointment and missed opportunity that was "Desktop Linux" I bought an Apple iMac on the basis that I would just use the nice hardware but run Linux and Windows etc on it instead
I know my post was quite long Mike but did you read any of it?
Apple hardware is not expensive. It was 10 years ago but not since they moved to Intel in 2005/06. Before I got my iMac I used to typically spend £600
every 3 years to upgrade my PC. I didn't go for cheap bits to be fair but I didn't go for the most expensive either. However, in 2007 I
needed a new monitor as well and when I tried to cost out a machine with a similar spec to the iMac (with a lovely 24" S-IPS LCD display) I could
barely source the parts for £1000 and for another £150 I could have a complete machine. Yes I could have bought cheaper PC bits and built a machine
for £700 or so but that was never my style. I am not a "cheap computer" user and never have been as it is the basis of my career. As I said
earlier, my machine is still worth £600 so has only cost me £549 over 4.5 years rather than the usual £600 every 3 years. I know you can buy 24"
screens for £120 these days but back then a comparable screen was more like £700 and even today you would need to spend £250 to get something
comparable.
People have been building "Hackintosh's" for many years - this is not a new thing. The thing is they never quite work 100% and require
more maintenance then the real thing in order to utilise software updates etc. You are also restricted to using particular graphics chipsets etc to
maintain compatibility.
Apple hardware isn't proprietary any more so than a Dell or HP machine. They all use proprietary motherboards etc but the CPU's, GPU's
and other components like hard drives and screens are usually the same as in similar spec PC's. That's why Windows and Linux will run on a
Mac without any problem.
With respect Mike, it sounds like you are a few years out of date in terms of the power of Apple machines. Some of the most powerful desktop and
laptop machines available today are Apple machines, even when running Windows. PC Pro has reviewed quite a few machines and ended their article by
stating this explicitly. Even the recent Macbook Air machines are really fast due to the SSD drives. Apple also quite often get CPU and GPU upgrades
before the other manufacturers due to close ties with Intel and other chip vendors.
Cheers,
Craig.
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
However, in 2007 in a fit of despair after several years of the perpetual disappointment and missed opportunity that was "Desktop Linux" I bought an Apple iMac on the basis that I would just use the nice hardware but run Linux and Windows etc on it instead
Surely backwards logic? Apple hardware is ridiculously expensive and typically proprietary in design, but people buy them because they look nice and they run OSX. If you just wanted to run Windows and Linux, why would you pay Apple tax when you could get a vastly more powerful PC using standardised parts? Seems like the worst of both worlds, esp. for running Windows (which I'm not knocking).
People now are doing the opposite, getting OSX to run on standard PC systems which gives the best of both worlds, cheap and powerful hardware coupled with the only useful part of a Mac.
It's always the same when discussed on here:
Those who don't own an Ipad tend to either want one, or, more interestingly, slag it off, saying Android is always better.
Yet those who have one always LOVE it.
So who you going to take advice from, people who own them and love them, or people who don't own one but seem to know how they would feel if they
did.
I got rid of my small laptop at home becuase I never used it. Sold it on Ebay for £140 - then got myself a second hand iPad1. I use it ALL the time,
because it's ready at the click of a button and is a total joy to use, as do the rest of the family. We use it to look up stuff on the net all
the time, from recipes and movie info, to BBC news channel and iPlayer. Oh yes, and the games are great too.
And I used to think Apple products were overpriced, till I came to sell my 2 year old iPhone 3gs, which had NEVER gone wrong, hardly ever locked up or
crashed, didn't have a single scratch on the screen even though it has no screen guard and lived in my pocket - for £150 on Ebay.
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
I know my post was quite long Mike but did you read any of it?
Apple hardware is not expensive.
Good god, that is sooooo out of date and/or just plain misleading:
3G - There is an iPad 3G
Phone - Skype, FaceTime etc.
Takes Photos - Yes it does
Takes videos - Yes it does
Flash - Seriously? Even Adobe has given up on flash as they can't get it to work properly on mobile devices.
1080p - Why would you want 1080p on a 768 line display? 720p is plenty.
Desktop OS - No, and that's why it is so good! Microsoft tried a desktop OS on tablets 10 years ago and failed.
Expandable memory - Yes, 16GB, 32GB or 64GB with iCloud and Dropbox and WiFi sharing etc.
Mac OS X - Yes iOS is based on Mac OS X
Windows - Huh???
Linux - Huh again???
SMS Application - Yes, it's called iMessage and doesn't cost you any texts. It also gives delivery and read reports.
USB support - Supports USB cameras and SD/CF card readers. Jailbroken will support anything.
Hard Disk - Solid state hard disk - yes!
Physical Keyboard - Yes, for those who need one. Keyboard dock and many good keyboard-cases.
Handwriting recognition - Pllllease, that went out with the Newton. I'm sure there is an app for that though.
Voice Recognition - It's called Siri and will come to the iPad when out of Beta (or before via Jailbreak)
OLED Screen - No, it's got an IPS screen. Much better in many ways. IGZO screens probably coming next year which are even better.
Open-Source - Apple have open-sourced a lot of Mac OS X under the Darwin project. Open Source is not automatically good you know...
HD Display - Retina iPad expected next year.
HDMI Output - Yes, via cable or Apple TV
Card Reader - Yes, SD or CF or Camera direct
Ethernet Port - Seriously? Why tether when you can use wireless?
Free Internet - Huh? Does Starbucks or McDonalds count?
Uses E-Ink - Thank heavens it DOES NOT! Eek! All that flashing between refreshes a la Kindle. Yuck!
3rd party 'apps' - Only 150000 of them and counting... Plus another 400000 iPhone apps which also work.
Multitasking - Yes
Good games - Some of the best on the mobile market.
Fun - Absolutely
Can survive a 6 inch drop - definitely, unless you drop it onto the rock. Plenty of robust cases available for it too.
Does that help?
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
I know my post was quite long Mike but did you read any of it?
Apple hardware is not expensive.
Are you seriously telling me you can buy an Apple Mac with equivalent CPU, Graphics and memory for anywhere near the same price as a generic PC system?
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
Does that help?
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
Does that help?
Yeah. Helps confirm how easy it is to wind up apple fans
I agree with Craig whole heartedly. I too use these kinds of devices on a professional basis (Macs and PCs). I've also owned iPhones, an iPad and
an Android phone. Apple products just seem to work better, and for longer, it's a fact! Yes if you read the specs (processor speed, bus speeds
etc etc) then a Windows machine might look more attractive on paper but when it comes to rendering some video or processing audio, or whatever, not
only will it be quicker on the Mac, the job will almost certainly be completed without any fuss or errors (or an irritating request for some obscure
driver, codec or whatever). Unless you regularly use both systems (for similar tasks) you'd never realise just how big the difference is.
I think one of the main advantages Apple has, other than the afore mentioned superior build quality, is the fact that their software developers have
far fewer 'what ifs' to deal with. When creating any Windows operating system the unfortunate software engineer has very little idea what
his OS will be run on. This will obviously lead to compromises, inefficiency and instability. Apple's developers know exactly every hardware
scenario they're writing for, far less compromises and greater stability and efficiency. Unless of course its a 'hackintosh' (Not seen
one work properly yet).
I've literally just retired my old 'Quicksilver G4' after 10 years! How many PCs still run perfectly after a decade of hard use (and
absolutely no hardware modifications or repairs)?
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
Couldn't be more chilled out actually...
lol, try one, if you like it and it does what you need buy it....... simples
Personaly I surf the web in the lounge on my £25 laptop running Linux with a freezer revived battery and it does pretty much everything I need to do
that, I have a PC in the garage that cost me £9.99 from Ebay (the unfashionable 90's looking white box ones often have interesting motherboards
) I think I've spent £50 more upgrading it and it flies for what I need it for...... and I have a CAD type workstation (which I hardly ever
use) but runs Solidworks, 3D Max, AutoCad etc etc without blinking and it's got a quad core cpu so it renders ok too - £199 - Ebay again - oh and
another £25 quid laptop in the garage for megasquirt tuning So a total expenditure of what £350 quid? would I swap them all + a bit more cash for an
Ipad? nope but that's just me!
Locost all the way..... lol
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
Couldn't be more chilled out actually...
350+ words in reply to a comedy pic. Seems legit
wow too many people need to get a life.
Its simple. Do you want one? if yes then buy it.
It comes back to what I said waaaay back in this thread - iPads are very clever and work brilliantly - but I'm not prepared to pay the huge
premium to get one. I can live my life without one.
Simples.
quote:
Originally posted by CraigJ
wow too many people need to get a life.
Its simple. Do you want one? if yes then buy it.
I've only played with an Ipad, but have had an Iphone for a couple of years. It's OK for reading email but as a phone it isn't very
good. It is also way too slow to use the map & GPS app it comes with, but then as I said it is old ish. Doesn't work well with MS Exchange
either when synchronising calendars.
The biggest proble I have with all Apple devices is I tunes which is a godawful piece of software. The video editing stuff i've seen is good
though.
Stu
Wtf has happened to to this site? It used to be Interesting
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
quote:
Originally posted by CraigJ
wow too many people need to get a life.
Its simple. Do you want one? if yes then buy it.
Come on, the OP did ask for opinions not sanctimonious attacks.
@DavidJ, you can pick up a new 1st gen for just over £200 and 2nd hand iPad 2 for around £250.
Sherlock Holmes was quite good by the way, time for a beer now!
[Edited on 31/12/2011 by craig1410]
quote:
Originally posted by CraigJ
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
quote:
Originally posted by CraigJ
wow too many people need to get a life.
Its simple. Do you want one? if yes then buy it.
Come on, the OP did ask for opinions not sanctimonious attacks.
@DavidJ, you can pick up a new 1st gen for just over £200 and 2nd hand iPad 2 for around £250.
Sherlock Holmes was quite good by the way, time for a beer now!
[Edited on 31/12/2011 by craig1410]
Not an attack at the OP, more of an attack at the apple bummers.
Between me and my Mrs we have a destop pc, laptop, ipod touch and i have just got her a Blackberry playbook for xmas. She looked at the ipad and came to the conclusion that it is just a giant version of the ipod touch she already has and didn't want to spend 400 quid just for the apple tax.
To the OP take a look at the BB playbook. starts from £169 and for photos and browsing its spot on. There are also loads of other tablets out there to chose from that cost half of what an ipad costs.
He wants a device for photos and browsing right? at less than 200 quid it does the job right? For the size of the ipad you may as well buy a laptop.
cheaper and better.
I don't hate apple just think they are very very over priced. I bet if the next ipad was released at 800 quid idiots like you would still buy it
and apple will be pissing them self's laughing.
Not worth the money.
quote:
Originally posted by CraigJ
..... idiots like you would still buy it
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Originally posted by CraigJ
He wants a device for photos and browsing right? at less than 200 quid it does the job right? For the size of the ipad you may as well buy a laptop. cheaper and better.
I don't hate apple just think they are very very over priced. I bet if the next ipad was released at 800 quid idiots like you would still buy it and apple will be pissing them self's laughing.
Sorry but no i would not have bought the kindle. Like i said in my other post the tablet was for the Mrs not me. I can live my life with out it
thanks. Also why do you seem to think i like blackberry? your post and link makes no difference to me what so ever.
As for the playbook being a big let down for blackberry means the Mrs got the playbook pretty cheap. She uses it for browsing, word, spread sheets
etc. It does the job that she wants it to.
Also you never answered the questions, for browsing and photos there is nothing wrong with the playbook is there?
In a word BRILLIANT ........
I got my wife one for Christmas.
The laptop hasn't been turned on since.
As others have said - open the case I bought for it and it turns on instantly.
Pricewise - they're not cheap ! But unlike every other Windows operating device I use - it works
faultlessly, no crashing,freezing etc. I don't mind paying extra for quality and reliability.
I like them - but it's horses for courses.
Certainly not worth falling out over.
quote:
Originally posted by CraigJ
Sorry but no i would not have bought the kindle. Like i said in my other post the tablet was for the Mrs not me. I can live my life with out it thanks. Also why do you seem to think i like blackberry? your post and link makes no difference to me what so ever.
As for the playbook being a big let down for blackberry means the Mrs got the playbook pretty cheap. She uses it for browsing, word, spread sheets etc. It does the job that she wants it to.
Also you never answered the questions, for browsing and photos there is nothing wrong with the playbook is there?
Just to add, there's a rumour going round that the iPad 3 will launch in Feb / March with 2 variants, a lite and a fully fledged version, also
the iPad 2 will continue to be sold at about £200 to compete with the Kindle Fire et al, that should put the cat amongst the androids
Just in case anyone else is thinking of getting a Playbook, you can now get 64GB model for same price as 16GB. I'd still recommend a Kindle Fire
at the cheap end and iPad as the best premium tablet but this may still be of interest.
http://m.bgr.com/2012/01/03/new-sale-cuts-blackberry-playbook-price-by-as-much-as-400/
Cheers,
Craig.
And since you all know you want one try watching wickedgadget. com
Possibly two of the best things I have ever done ever....
1 was get rid of the ex and
2 I was given an iPhone 3GS which is a great net access device (phones not good) but have a cranberry for that
I'm looking to get a massive desktop mac soon.
As for the iPad I dearly love to get one but with a little boy 8 yo ADHD the risk is too great.
We go through ds machines with alarming regularity.
Kinda get sick of fixing pcs as a day job then having to debug one at home.
As for the flash issue it's going away in as even the beeb are moving away from it.
I tunes is a pain but I only had yo load it once and genius does the rest.
Oh and pcs are so easy to leak.
Remember that when your next doing online banking
Anyone who underestimates the likely growth in the tablet market in the next 12 months or so, is very out of touch IMHO.
Productivity is one thing, but these things are about a consumer experience.
The combinations of the might of the apple app store, its ease of use and the intuitive interface of the iPad make it so simple.
Android as a tablet format is tainted by all the low end junk out there which is barely capable of turning itself on far less doing anything.
Where does an Android tablet become usable, how much do you need to spend ?
I'm only a few weeks into my iOS experience, been playing and working with PCs since 1990 or so.
The fact that an iOS device just goes and works sells it for me.
When we had the storms the other day, it took me longer to boot the PC and get useful advice from the met office than it did to unlock the iPhone,
install the met office app from the app store and gave the info in front of me.
I started both at the same time and the iPhone had the app installed and the info there in well under a minute.
YMMV.
i like the look of the new ASUS Transformer prime, the experts are saying its a match for the ipad, also has a clip in keyboard that makes it into a netbook, and the keyboard has a second battery giving it a very long battery life, worth a look, i will be getting my first apple product soon, an iphone 4s or maybe a 5 if they out in time.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/9658670.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/9585673.stm
Some interesting points raised about the cheaper options.
Kobo can be rooted and fully featured in a locost way
[Edited on 5-1-12 by mangogrooveworkshop]
I love the iPad, however, I recently got given the Samsung Tablet which is really good too, it enables you to be really organised and you don't
have to pay for it by adding tonnes of Apps!
I'd say test some out before you buy as there's great deals still happening throughout lots of technology stores! Best of luck!
Rini
Is that the Galaxy Tablet ?
I've learnt something new today, I'm Proud to be an "apple bummer".
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Originally posted by zilspeed
Is that the Galaxy Tablet ?
I'm a developer and have a stack of apple, android and other devices on my desk. as others have said go play and buy what you like.
Apple products have been polished to the point that they have a mirror like shine. They are not however mesire If all you want is a bit of light
browsing and an experience simalaer but bigger that iPhone they are good. as some one posted earlier if you what midi interface they are great.
Android, cheap ones are bad. mid and hi price ones are good to great. can do everything the apple stuff does is a little cheaper also just works.
Others, on the hole not as good as Apple or Android
Right now the device I take home is the Asus Transformer, its just so versatile I suspect that the prime with key board will be the device I spend my
own cash on and is what I recommend when asked.
ipad = brilliant ...... and thats ALL you need to know = END OF THREAD
Missus bought me a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 last year brilliant bit of kit same price as a Ipad I believe but Itunes dont have you by the nuts.
Ive got an Iphone and an Ipod touch so didnt want to go down the apple route again. Only thing I can say where its let down over an Ipad is Android
apps most of which appear to be written for Phones and dont translate to the bigger tablet too well and a lot of which seem to be work in progress
which freeze for no apparent reason no doubt that will change now Google own Motorola and thier tablet will be pushed more.
Cheers,
Bob