sold a caravan on the bay. guy came along, moaned about a few things and knocked me down on price. He paid cash and took away.
Now he says there is other problems with the van and wants to bring it back for a refund. The problems he states were fine on the day he took it. He
did also say his son was a caravan trader. I wonder wether he has swapped parts over..
I emailed to say sold as seen but he said he will bring it back.
advice please
if his son is a trader then he knew what he was looking at from day 1. tell him to go walk or take you to court.
If you did not offer a warranty then tell him it's sold as seen and no refunds are available.
Very simple case of 'let the buyer beware'. He's not got a leg to stand on.
caveat emptor
He's a dealer! tell him to take a running jump!
It is really as the others have said, not your problem.
But, lets play devils advocate.
What if he has since inspected the chassis and its about to snap in half, would we all be happy to take that on the chin?
What if the OP was infact the buyer of a kit car that he since discovered a major fault, would we all be offering the same advice?
I guess a lot depends on the type of fault the buyer has discovered.
quote:
Originally posted by balidey
It is really as the others have said, not your problem.
But, lets play devils advocate.
What if he has since inspected the chassis and its about to snap in half, would we all be happy to take that on the chin?
What if the OP was infact the buyer of a kit car that he since discovered a major fault, would we all be offering the same advice?
I guess a lot depends on the type of fault the buyer has discovered.
quote:
Originally posted by balidey
It is really as the others have said, not your problem.
But, lets play devils advocate.
What if he has since inspected the chassis and its about to snap in half, would we all be happy to take that on the chin?
I wouldn't be happy, no. But as the buyer, I accept it's my responsibility to check. I certainly wouldn't go back to the seller asking for my money back.......
What if the OP was infact the buyer of a kit car that he since discovered a major fault, would we all be offering the same advice?
Yes, because that is the law and provided there was no misrepresentation, is covered by the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended)
I guess a lot depends on the type of fault the buyer has discovered.
Provided there was no misrepresentation in the original advert - Caveat Emptor
told him sold as seen. He has moaned on one point that the sleeping annex is moldy (i did not know or advertice condition) I offered to meet half way
on a new one as a gesture of good will. He sent this
"i will be bringing it back tonight and i guarrentee i will be compensated"
quote:
Originally posted by crutch
told him sold as seen. He has moaned on one point that the sleeping annex is moldy (i did not know or advertice condition) I offered to meet half way on a new one as a gesture of good will. He sent this
"i will be bringing it back tonight and i guarrentee i will be compensated"
quote:
Originally posted by crutch
told him sold as seen. He has moaned on one point that the sleeping annex is moldy (i did not know or advertice condition) I offered to meet half way on a new one as a gesture of good will. He sent this
"i will be bringing it back tonight and i guarrentee i will be compensated"
Let him bring it back, and then call the council to report someone fly tipping a caravan!
Ignore the emails - he is trying his luck. I would not even respond to that type of threat. eBay seems to be full of this type of person now, and
sadly, eBay tends to fall on the side of the buyer. But in this case, it sounds like you have nothing to worry about. If you did not describe the
condition incorrectly, and he drove away with the caravan having 'done a deal', it is not your problem - you formed a contract, you
completed on said contract.. end of unless he can prove (in a court) that you intentionally mis-represented it (and even then, he is clutching at
straws).
The rules are slightly different when buying a car, but this is not a car, and he does not have any come back against you unless he wants to try his
luck in a small claims court.
Caravan, caravan trader, threatening behavior.... sounds like a pikey - be very careful!
as all the others said you have nothing to worry about but be intresting to see if he comes back or if hes threatning
quote:
Originally posted by crutch
sold a caravan on the bay. guy came along, moaned about a few things and knocked me down on price. He paid cash and took away.
Now he says there is other problems with the van and wants to bring it back for a refund. The problems he states were fine on the day he took it. He did also say his son was a caravan trader. I wonder wether he has swapped parts over..
I emailed to say sold as seen but he said he will bring it back.
advice please
give me his number im with my legal team they will chat with him on your behalf....
PS why did he buy from you if his son is a caravan dealer. D*CK HEAD
David
[Edited on 31/7/12 by jossey]
Not a nice situation to be in, you are in the right, he is in the wrong however I'm not sat where you are.
If he his been this threatening then I would consider having some sort of recording device to hand just in case he does turn up, dependent on how real
you feel the threat is it may be worth ringing the non emergency police number for advice and to forewarn them they may get a call, I guess you
didn't note his reg number when he collected ? I guess none of us would have but you will have his contact details address etc from the winning
bid ? Maybe worth checking its a genuine address and passing these details onto plod if you contact them, they will know if he as form ?
What does he claim thew faults to be ?
Thanks for the replys and support chaps.
I advertised the van with a long list of known faults but also stated there maybe items i have missed. The actual problem he has is with the extras. I
said i will include in the auction all the caravan extras as we wont be going anymore. So there were 2 awnings and a sleeping awning which goes on the
main awning.
I said they were welcome to have the extras with the van but stated no condition. When he took the van away it was raining very hard and i had put the
gear in the garage on the 7. The porch awning rolled off and he forgot to take.
He called back and knocked on the door asking if he had definatly got the sleeping annex, i went to the van checked and saw he had but never checking
the garage and noticed the porch one. When he went i noticed the porch awning. i emailed to say my fault and i would deliver at my expense (i regualry
drive near his 2hr away address with work or i would shiply it)
He said he was not happy about that. He then said the sleeping annex had been put away wet so was mouldy. I never stated condition but also offered to
pay to have it cleaned. (i may have put it away wet)
He then said the blown air heating didnt work but i checked it the day he had it and it was fine and also been fine. I explained he needs to read the
manual as it does have many settings inc themostatic settings.
Thats when he sent the threatening email.
My pal is a copper so i emailed back saying i did not like his tone or where he was going with it and i had taken advice from my police friend. I
still offered to meet in the middle on the resolution to his problems. I feel i have been very fair more than required. Ebay people i suppose.
sounds like a tit. if i got a camper and it had a bit of mould in the tent bit i would have gone indoors got a cloth and got scrubbing, seems like a pretty logical thing to do. used is used new is new. buy used get used dont expect new....
Any update on this? Did the guy turn up on your doorstep?
quote:
Originally posted by jossey
give me his number im with my legal team they will chat with him on your behalf....
PS why did he buy from you if his son is a caravan dealer. D*CK HEAD
David
[Edited on 31/7/12 by jossey]