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[Edited on 31/8/05 by donut]
Check this out if you have not already, a twin engined ultima using 2 Busa engines!!! Mad or what!
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[Edited on 31/8/05 by donut]
Holy crap, 1000hp!!!!
I want it, I want it, I want it.
oh and by the way, I WANT IT!!!
I don't want it - I just know that I'd kill myself eventually...
...but what a way to go out! 
DJ
[Edited on 31/8/05 by David Jenkins]
It's the first time I've seen that R1 engined Mini - even that looks brilliant! Those were the days!! 
its about time they put up some performance numbers. ive been looking at the same pics of that thing for months now. they need to go ahead and break some records with it allready. it will probly do 0-100-0 before you can say twin turboed hayabusa powered ultima.
obviously I'm biased on this one (as my mate runs Ultima!) but it is "interesting" to note that the Z-cars Ultima has not yet set any
records, or had any mention at all since its "debut" at Autosport this January.
The Allanson's were fairly confident of beating the Ultima factory world records, but nothing has happened since, and Ultima have raised the
stakes twice since then, 0 to 100 and back to 0 mph in 9.8 secs is going to be tricky the beat, as is 0-200-0 at bruntingthorpe runway! which was with
"only" 640hp.................... and they still have a more powerful chevy waiting in the wings just in case..................and that is
still only a carburettored one with "only" 720hp. They still have fuel injection and super/turbo charging to consider should somebody
request it!!!!!!!!!
There's also a financial aspect to it, the 640hp chevy was £11,000 in a box from the USA, you won't get two reliable turbo hayabusas for
anything like that, try doubling that figure and you'd be closer.
My mate's view on the Z-cars ultima was one of "wait and see". He was interested in how it performed, but could not see the point of
the engine installation when it was so complex and yet almost certainly no quicker than their 2wd chevy version.
one last little comment, only a daft one, but since when did K&N rate these air filters to 500hp???????
Hey I was the guy who had the R1 mini in the magazines it was a great little car but a little heavy.
It's now sold for the current build
The ulitma was going through the wiring process with mocal last time I was a the factory. A very complicated process as you can't have the turbos
cuting in at any time at the front or back (4wd)as that would make it a very interesting drive!!!!
I know that ulitma would like to keep there record but Z cars are the experts at this type of thing but really it's still an ultima!!!
As for the engines I know they are £20000 a piece!!!!
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Originally posted by uklee70
As for the engines I know they are £20000 a piece!!!!
Personally, id rather go out shagging kylie minogue than having a Hyabusa engine down my throat and inch section crumpled into my body........
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
I don't want it - I just know that I'd kill myself eventually...
...but what a way to go out!
DJ
[Edited on 31/8/05 by David Jenkins]
Was down there last week to pick up a clutch cable for my Indy. Chris is flat out with work and hasn't had much time on the Ultima of late. He
is also working on a new 180 x 80 workshop to cope with demand. He has promised to call me when it is first run in anger so we can go along. I know
many people wonder why you would go to such extremes but it is being built at a customers request and the customer is always right.
The record attempts will be interesting, but knowing Chris the way I do, it would be a very foolish person to bet against him.
Why though......and don't say because they can because that's not the point ........petrol costs nearly a fiver a gallon and they make
that!!!!
About time these so called clever bods who get stupid horse power gave us decent MPG .....
that is another point.
Just to go on some more, the proper Chevy powered ultima is ridiculously quick around a track.
Anybody racing in 750mc kit cars in the days of Lee Noble, Ted Marlow and Bob Light's domination will confirm that.
Without going on for too long, these twin engine 4wd cars are great for pub talk and straight line stuff, but around a track with mo mechanical
connection between front and rear drives...................................call me old fashioned but lets see it set some lap records and I'll
eat my hat. I see the twin tigers are not exactly rapid in terms of track times!!!!!!!
With their std offering, Ultima have managed to complete something bordering on the impossible, by making a car which can be built from off the shelf
mechanical parts, which don't break, and can be had from large easily accessible suppliers, but is also capable of world record setting straight
line performance, and has at various points in it's history, held track records at most if not all the club motorsport tracks in the country used
by the 750mc. That the same car is reliable and utterly bulletproof when used constantly for trackdays and then can be comfortably driven from LA to
New York is no mean feat for such a small company.
Ultima keep their product outwardly simple, in order that it meets it's aims constantly and reliably. Any complication to this generally results
in (according to my mate!) two things 1) "unfinished project" or 2) unreliability............................by way of example, take a look
at Noble's record on the latter...........................
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Originally posted by Triton
About time these so called clever bods who get stupid horse power gave us decent MPG .....
Does anybody here know someone within Ultima?
Was that a serious question or taking the pi55 out of me!!
Yes, my "best" mate from our schooldays runs Ultima with his dad. Richard and Ted Marlow. Based all of 4 miles from my house. Noble are 1
mile down the road in my village as well.
[Edited on 2/9/05 by NS Dev]
i dont think ultimas have modsports records in the 1150 cc category , i know which car does !!
only joking !! - Have they won the British GT championship !!
obviously records are within categories!
The only teams that have run them have not had suitable budgets to run properly competitively in british GT's. Colin Blower did pretty well with
his Ultima in british GT's but his budget was struggling to stretch to a gearbox that didn't break every race. (consistently blew Quaife
boxes up and budget didn't stretch to a shiny new Hewland at £100,000+)
In terms of lap times he was well on the pace.
the darrian that won British GT only had an Fg400 - millington diamond , and about 650 kgs , not a bad recipe
its mad and i love it and like others,have been waiting to see some good video footage from it ,it might not break any lap records but jesus it would
be fun trying
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Originally posted by Volvorsport
the darrian that won British GT only had an Fg400 - millington diamond , and about 650 kgs , not a bad recipe
yes, because of our success , the big teams spat their dummys out and made us run at 900 kgs and in GT1 the next year - with only 400hp .
i have to say roy millington wasntcoming up with the goods at that point and allan warbuton at DTA had to do some remapping at croft . we were doing
ok at the race , but the intercooler was completey inefficient .
thats where my aerodynamics project came in !!
There is one of those Noble things local to me and to say the driver is a complete cheese biscuit is an understatement!!!.....My Ashtray Estate gets
used harder than that so why bother in the first place spending 50k on a car they then drive slower than a 20p special!!!!
.
seen a few Nobles like that on track days!! Seem worried about breaking things!!!