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ZETEC SE Engine
big-vee-twin - 21/3/10 at 09:34 AM

Hi All,

Been reading about the SE engine looks like a great power plant, however there isn't as much info out there as for the 'standard' Zetec.

Do these engines need a lowered sump and if so where would you get one from?

I've found a bell housing to go onto the Type 9.

I've also found shawspeed also regarding tuning.

Just wanted to make sure they are usable before buying.

Anyone using one?


lotusmadandy - 21/3/10 at 10:02 AM

I could be way off the mark here but from what i have learned about the SE engine there are not many parts available for a rebuild.
A bloke i know has one in his focus and he snapped the cam belt.when he tried to get parts he was told it was a throw away engine and he needed a new one.

The exhaust is on the same side as the pinto but personaly i would use a zetec s.
Lots of tuning bits available and reliable.

Thats just my two penarth worth and no doubt i will be shot down in flames in a minute

Andy


Davegtst - 21/3/10 at 10:05 AM

This is true, Ford will not sell you a set of pistons, rods or even bearings. They will only sell you a complete short engine. You can get pistons from a very few motor factors though.

[Edited on 21/3/10 by Davegtst]


smuty - 21/3/10 at 10:11 AM

Ye we have one to install , as far as ive found out you got the choice of dry sump (very expensive) or caterham use the SE and i picked one of there sumps for about £90 of ebay


Paul (Notts) - 21/3/10 at 10:12 AM

Burton Power have started stocking some tunning parts for the SE

The 1.7 in my old puma was a good engine BUT The 2 ltr duratec in my ST is so much better.

Paul


tul214 - 21/3/10 at 10:13 AM

beaver34 has one.....
link


terryroberts - 21/3/10 at 10:48 AM

i'll have a chat at work see what i can find out. we only build about 2500 of these a day. if you boys can hang on the new ecoboost motor will be built soon. 1.6 185bhp.

cheers terry


coozer - 21/3/10 at 12:09 PM

From what I've heard they are prone to big end failer...

1.8 zetecs can be much cheaper, are easier to tune and give more power.


beaver34 - 21/3/10 at 12:51 PM

i have one,

massive underrated IMO

all bearing and parts you can get, great high revving and very light, run mine for 3 years revving to 8k on stock bottom end no problems, mine ran cams headwork busa throttle bodies and made 175bhp and 130lbft run like this for 3 years, im now rebuilding it with rods pistons wilder cams some work on the crank and it should see 200bhp,

i run a standard baffled sump at the moment but will use a accusump for track use, shawspeed do all the parts and can do shortened sumps and jon is fantastic to deal with and prices are very good drop me a u2u if you require any more info


big-vee-twin - 21/3/10 at 01:56 PM

I have seen a lot of spares and tuning parts for these, Caterham after extensive trials use them to replace the rover engine.

All alloy, designed by Yamaha and rev like stink.

I think these units sit between car and bike engines and seem to have best of both worlds- very tunable, very light, and a proper reverse gear.

Thanks for all your replies. Beaver I may be in touch thanks


RK - 21/3/10 at 02:21 PM

As long as I can find a suitable transmission, I think I just may have found my new engine! Just looking ahead...

Do a looksee on Wiki for the "Ford Ecoboost" and you'll be drooling in no time.


MakeEverything - 21/3/10 at 03:40 PM

Sounds to me like the Zetec is about to become very cheap!!


lotusmadandy - 21/3/10 at 05:23 PM

I consider myself shot down in afore mentioned flames

Andy


RK - 21/3/10 at 05:40 PM

why would anybody want zetec if brand new, cheap as can be, ecoboosts will soon be out there? As long as the transmission thing will work (Mazda or Transit van I suppose are the candidates)... Even now, the Zetecs are, what, 700 pounds new?

BTW, how much does it cost to get one of those crate engines in Locost configuration (fuel rail change, exhaust, intake manifold, carbs vs EFI etc)?


beaver34 - 21/3/10 at 06:06 PM

eco boost engine will be over 3k to buy and there wont be many in scrap cars for a while yet, although i would like a play with one in the kit car, maybe next year


RK - 21/3/10 at 07:03 PM

I sincerely doubt they will be 3k to buy once they've been out 6 months. Remember, the Zetec new is not generally out of donors for most people now.


terryroberts - 21/3/10 at 07:22 PM

as soon as there are put into production i'll get a price for one. i reckon i should be able to get one a fair bit cheaper than 3k. these motors are going in fiesta's,focus's,mondeo's.. and a 2ltr motor will be made awell..

cheers terry


beaver34 - 21/3/10 at 09:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by terryroberts
as soon as there are put into production i'll get a price for one. i reckon i should be able to get one a fair bit cheaper than 3k. these motors are going in fiesta's,focus's,mondeo's.. and a 2ltr motor will be made awell..

cheers terry


a duratech crate motor is £2,700 plus surcharge and vat, that with no inlet no exhaust no sensors no egr or anything never mind a turbo ontop of that, i work for ford in their parts side aswell everthing has gone up quite alot in the last 1-2 years, short motor for the se was £400 its now £720


eddie99 - 21/3/10 at 09:07 PM

As someone people have stated. Its more than waiting just 6months. Its going to be 6 months before they are on the market for £2k standard, will be 2-3 years before they are the price of zetec's now. Well thats what i think, happy to be proven wrong in this case though.


Chet - 20/9/10 at 02:39 AM

I'm very interested in the Ecoboost 1.6 and six speed manual trans.

Any updates on pricing or availability?
How do we handle the new DFI systems?
Does anyone know if the new six speed could be used with the earlier Zetec SE engine?

Thanks
Chet


Chet - 13/10/10 at 07:02 PM

Any updates?


Chet - 2/12/12 at 11:19 PM

Still waiting here in the USA for Ford to actually release the crate verision of the 1.6 EcoBoost.
It's my undertanding that prices and availability will be formally announced this year but that's what Ford said last year!

Any info available?

Thanks
Chet


beaver34 - 3/12/12 at 06:25 AM

1.6 eco boost 160/180bhp

Ford uk finis number F1768236

retail price £3,766+ VAT

that is engine only no inlet or turbo etc.....


Chet - 8/12/12 at 02:50 AM

quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
1.6 eco boost 160/180bhp

Ford uk finis number F1768236

retail price £3,766+ VAT

that is engine only no inlet or turbo etc.....



OK - Plan B

Are there any complete 1.6 EcoBoost engines and manual trans available at the breakers yet?

Might also consider the 1000 EcoBoost setup.

Thanks
Chet


rdodger - 8/12/12 at 12:01 PM

The perfect gearbox for a Zetec SE 200bhp screamer!

All I need now is the 10k required to buy the engine and box!


beaver34 - 8/12/12 at 08:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Chet
quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
1.6 eco boost 160/180bhp

Ford uk finis number F1768236

retail price £3,766+ VAT

that is engine only no inlet or turbo etc.....



OK - Plan B

Are there any complete 1.6 EcoBoost engines and manual trans available at the breakers yet?

Might also consider the 1000 EcoBoost setup.

Thanks
Chet


You will not find either I wouldn't think

Turbo a stock sigma like I have, did you get my email?