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1.9 diesel engine
PaulBuz - 13/12/04 at 03:31 PM

Helllp!!!
Ok its not for my locost but it is for my vw caddy van.
I THINK it may have skipped a tooth on the cambelt when i started it with EZ start this morning.
It is now very 'clattery' & power is well down.
Question is I can't see any timing marks on the cam pulley & I don't have a manual.
Can anyone help please!


ned - 13/12/04 at 03:40 PM

buy a manual or take it to a garage? do you have a timing light or any other timing equipment?

Ned.


PaulBuz - 13/12/04 at 03:48 PM

Hi Ned
As far as I can tell they don't make a manual.
But I'm pretty sure that its the same 1.9 non turbo diesel engine as fitted to a few other cars in the vw range.(Golf? etc.)
Yes i have got a timing light but unfortunatly someone seems to have nicked the plugs & leads from my DIESEL engine
ATB Paul

[Edited on 13/12/04 by PaulBuz]


splitrivet - 13/12/04 at 04:01 PM

If you had to start it with EZ start this morning Paul and you wouldnt normally have had to, sounds more like a duff injector.
Cheers,
Bob


PaulBuz - 13/12/04 at 04:09 PM

Hi splitrivet
the only reason I had to start it with EZ start was because its been standing for a while.
when it fired although it did'nt want to rev ,it ticks over fine.My main concern is a metallic ticking noise.At first i thought it was just the tappets filling with oil, because thats the exact same noise as this.But it didnt go away.
When i tried to drive it there is no power there

[Edited on 13/12/04 by PaulBuz]


Spriggsy - 13/12/04 at 04:42 PM

Paul,
as far as i can see in the cam belt timing book, VW 1.9d doesn't have any cam pulley marks. the cam is timed using a locking plate(vw special tool) which is lined up with the camshaft once you have removed the cam cover.


gazza285 - 13/12/04 at 05:04 PM

There's a mark on the flywheel for TDC on some VW diesel engines, you look through a plugged hole in the top of the bellhousing, but as Sprigsy says, you use a VW tool (No2056A) to line up the cam and another VW tool (No2064) to lock the pump. No2064 is just a threaded dowl and can be improvised but the cam tool is another matter.


nick205 - 13/12/04 at 05:06 PM

it sounds like an injector problem to me if it ticks over OK.

How long has it been stood for?
Could it be air and/or moisture in the fuel system?

Nick


Rob Lane - 13/12/04 at 05:22 PM

Metallic ticking noise, down on power, suspected cam belt slip.

Could have bent a valve or two

Diesels usually have very tight clearances because they run at high compression.


PaulBuz - 13/12/04 at 05:34 PM

thanks all for the replies .I've managed to download a small section of a manual.
Will try again in the morning.I plan to fabricate some sort of tool to lock the inj. pump( I have a lathe) & according to the instruction I have the camshaft can be lock with a piece of steel plate.
I am hoping the when i lock these 2 things in position & look through the hole in the bellhousing i will see that the TDC mark is out.
IF all that is ok.........??????
Thanks again for the promp replies


jollygreengiant - 13/12/04 at 06:00 PM

Never use EZ start on modern deisels. Once they get a sniff of it the need it more and more. The likely hood is that you might have knocked out a precombustion/injection chamber.


Spriggsy - 13/12/04 at 06:17 PM

totally agree! EZstart is like an engine drug! leave it to the dumper trucks,tractors and cement mixers


gazza285 - 13/12/04 at 06:20 PM

I'm addicted too, what a smell!


rusty nuts - 13/12/04 at 06:36 PM

Think you will find that replacement of timing belt tensioner is recommended when timing belts are changed, it's possible that tensioner has failed allowing belt to jump, If that is the case do not reuse the old belt or tensioner . Best of luck. Rusty


splitrivet - 13/12/04 at 09:33 PM

I would have thought that if it ran OK before you parked it that why should the timing belt jumped a tooth over night sitting on its jack.

Diesels do make odd noises if they arent sucking the right fuel ratio,could be moisture in the fuel line or injector or pump.

Best of luck anyroad,let us know how you get on.It might help someone else out.
Cheers,
Bob


fatfranky - 13/12/04 at 09:36 PM

Paul

I've owned several VW Diesels over the years, basically to check the timing, remove the cam cover and belt cover, turn the engine to TDC on No1 (Both cam lobes pointing upwards, and ensure that O is aligning with pointer in bellhousing hole.

The slot in the back of the camshaft should be alligned with the top surface of cylinder head (IIRC a 6MM bar is a suitable tool) also check that the locking pin on the injector pump aligns (it was a 16 MM bolt on older engines but I'm certain that newer ones had a slot that aligned with a 6MM pin)

If any are misaligned I would replace belt and tensioner.

As for a workshop manual, go to your local library and get the Haynes manual for either MK1 or MK2 golf Diesels whilst a lot has changed on these engines the basic proceedure is the same.

All of the above assumes that it's not a TDI or SDI in which case get the manual for a MK3, which has a section on the TDI engine

Hope this helps


gazza285 - 13/12/04 at 09:42 PM

Or you could always do what I'm doing with my Transporter van. VW engine out, Peugeot engine in.


PaulBuz - 15/12/04 at 08:39 PM

the cam belt had skipped a tooth.
Managed to time the cam in relation to the crank, the inj. pump on my van is like nothing i saw in any of the manuals i looked at .
There are NO timing marks at all on it.
It is just a thinly spoked wheel with nowhere to insert a dowel or location pin etc.
in the end i kept it where it was & kept moving it in relation to the other 2 untill the engine ran smoothly.
If anyone knows how to set up a pump properly, i would love to know, if only for future referance!