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interestedparty

posted on 24/9/10 at 09:09 PM Reply With Quote
Anyone here ever thought about building a hotrod?

I've wondered about it myself from time to time. I'm not into the whole American hot rod thing with beam axles and different size front/rear wheels, but I do like the shape of some of the bodies that are available.

Bit of a nightmare aerodynamically, and it would probably be difficult to design a chassis that was decently stiff without being very heavy, due to the door openings, but still it crosses my mind from time to time.

Something like this is not to far away from what I have in mind







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slingshot2000

posted on 24/9/10 at 09:23 PM Reply With Quote
Yes, I have always wanted something like the little yellow duce coupe in American Graffitti (?). I always love the scene, just before the race, when he crawls under the car to remove the header plugs! Brilliant!
Would love to build a modern version with a proper frame/backbone spaceframe/chassis, decent suspension, modern V8 and header plugs you could operate remotely!

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marcjagman

posted on 24/9/10 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
Nearest I'll get is sticking a tuned Rover V8 into my Volvo 960 estate. I have already grafted an 850 front onto it, turning it into a pick up next year. Does that count?
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steve m

posted on 24/9/10 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
IVA would be a pita
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mistergrumpy

posted on 24/9/10 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
I'd love a model A pickup or back over here a nice Ford Pop but sadly can't afford it nor do I have the time or space anymore. Went another 24 hours without food today due to work commitments
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posted on 24/9/10 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
Like this?



Yes.





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jollygreengiant

posted on 24/9/10 at 10:51 PM Reply With Quote
No, but what I am considering for my next build is going to be a bit on the wild side. Those who are already aware of it, I trust will do the honourable thing.



Nuff said.

Oh and I got an email from Vindicator asking for more details. Der, how much more do they need to know given that I said full size.

[Edited on 24/9/10 by jollygreengiant]





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interestedparty

posted on 25/9/10 at 05:15 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by steve m
IVA would be a pita


What makes you think that?



BTW, the pic in the OP is only to give an idea of the shape I have in mind, I should have said that it wasn't all the chrome and 'fancy' bits that I like, I would want a much more toned down version.





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morcus

posted on 25/9/10 at 06:11 AM Reply With Quote
I'd love to build a hotrod, either a Deuce coup or a T-Bucket (Came close to buying one on Ebay last year even though I've have nowhere to put it together or keep it).

I saw a Beauford Hotrod in one of the Kit mags a couple of months ago that looked pretty cool aswell.

If you went the Model T rout, there always seems to be a few kicking about in need of total restoration, I don't know how the rules work but you might be able to buy one with enough bits to make the finished car legally the same car as the original.





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kj

posted on 25/9/10 at 07:04 AM Reply With Quote
Yep would love a duce coupe in yellow, but the iva idea puts me off.
america graffiti what a car

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adithorp

posted on 25/9/10 at 07:11 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by morcus

If you went the Model T rout, there always seems to be a few kicking about in need of total restoration, I don't know how the rules work but you might be able to buy one with enough bits to make the finished car legally the same car as the original.


I know of one that was imported from the states already customised, complete with blown V8 etc. DVLA registered it without IVA as the chassis was in the original configuration and treated it like a classic import.

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iank

posted on 25/9/10 at 08:07 AM Reply With Quote
Not locost money, but probably a reasonable source of ideas on putting a spaceframe under a hotrod body.

http://www.factoryfive.co.uk/33hotrod/33hotrodhome.php





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iank

posted on 25/9/10 at 08:09 AM Reply With Quote
On IVA I can only see a few external projection type issues on the orange one (door hinges might need re-thinking for example).





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posted on 25/9/10 at 08:44 AM Reply With Quote
Personally this is the kind of rod I would like to have....







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gottabedone

posted on 25/9/10 at 10:23 AM Reply With Quote
To be honest, I cant see why you couldn't use a 7 type chassis as a base for a hotrod. You would get good chassis rigidity and some side protection thrown in. You could also put a roll bar on that coincides with the lines/shape of the bodywork. You would have wishbone suspension and relatively modern components.
Package it all within the bodywork and it would look great.

The only part that would be unfamiliar for a Locoster is the bodywork.

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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 25/9/10 at 02:32 PM Reply With Quote
iirc there was a guy in PPC about his time last year who had made a lovely volvo engined black chopped roof hot rod thing. I really did drool over that. It had all modern running gear and suspension.





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iank

posted on 25/9/10 at 03:19 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gottabedone
To be honest, I cant see why you couldn't use a 7 type chassis as a base for a hotrod. You would get good chassis rigidity and some side protection thrown in. You could also put a roll bar on that coincides with the lines/shape of the bodywork. You would have wishbone suspension and relatively modern components.
Package it all within the bodywork and it would look great.

The only part that would be unfamiliar for a Locoster is the bodywork.

Steve


Biggest problem is the doors, as soon as you modify the sides to give access you lose all the strength and have to significantly beef up the tunnel to compensate.

Not the end of the world but it requires thought to get good strength and reasonably deep doors.





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gottabedone

posted on 25/9/10 at 03:35 PM Reply With Quote
You could use a "false" door. Leave it full depth on the outside but you have to step over the sides of the chassis to get in - a bit like stepping over the side bars on cages.

There was also that really cool Volvo hotrod recently as well

Steve

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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 25/9/10 at 06:48 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gottabedone
You could use a "false" door. Leave it full depth on the outside but you have to step over the sides of the chassis to get in - a bit like stepping over the side bars on cages.

There was also that really cool Volvo hotrod recently as well

Steve


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posted on 25/9/10 at 07:15 PM Reply With Quote

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Simon

posted on 26/9/10 at 06:42 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iank

Biggest problem is the doors, as soon as you modify the sides to give access you lose all the strength and have to significantly beef up the tunnel to compensate.

Not the end of the world but it requires thought to get good strength and reasonably deep doors.


I don't see the problem, larger floor tube then the top tube could go over the door opening, and the vertical tubes used for seat belts.

T-bucket for me too!

ATB

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iank

posted on 26/9/10 at 10:05 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Simon
quote:
Originally posted by iank

Biggest problem is the doors, as soon as you modify the sides to give access you lose all the strength and have to significantly beef up the tunnel to compensate.

Not the end of the world but it requires thought to get good strength and reasonably deep doors.


I don't see the problem, larger floor tube then the top tube could go over the door opening, and the vertical tubes used for seat belts.

T-bucket for me too!

ATB

Simon


The only thing missing from your plan is the triangulation You tend to end up with a backbone (or a ladder) chassis, a full cage (effectively what you are proposing but with bigger tubes to cope with fewer triangles), compromised doors or a floppy chassis.





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