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tks

posted on 6/4/06 at 09:02 PM Reply With Quote
Ok,

lets put every detail in a row.

- You have got a spark at every lead?
- Your sparks(4) are getting wet?
- Your fireing order is correct? how did you verify?
- Your engine turnssweetover without any sparkplugs in it?
- Your engine turns sweet over while starting it withoutplugs???
Rpm reading??? (don't do this for allot of time) and clean the head//spark plug hole good!!

- You have used an powerfull battery c.q.
- You have an good earth to the block...
- the battery and coil power are very very important because:
- it costs more coil power to spark a sparkplug wich is :
- cold
- running rich of fuel mixture
- low voltage reading
- high rpm

The engine should do something! if there gets petrol in and a spark?

Movi?

Regards,

Tks

[Edited on 6/4/06 by tks]





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AlexS

posted on 6/4/06 at 09:21 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tks
lets put every detail in a row.

- You have got a spark at every lead? Yes
- Your sparks(4) are getting wet? No - especially as in garage
- Your fireing order is correct? how did you verify? - yes set timing, first to cylinder nearest to front, then realised first spark is to rear cylinder, so changed timing to suit using tdc and set dizzy to 11 o clock as per differnet thread in forum
- Your engine turnssweetover without any sparkplugs in it? turns over by hand and new starter but not tested with no plugs in
- Your engine turns sweet over while starting it withoutplugs???
Rpm reading??? (don't do this for allot of time) and clean the head//spark plug hole good!! cleaned all that. no rpm as not turning over anything like fast enuf to register.

- You have used an powerfull battery c.q. yes nice big battery bought end of last year and fully charged
- You have an good earth to the block... improved turnover speed with another earth direct from starter to chasis (using jump lead) so will fit new/more/bigger earths but still did not get upto proper speed with extra earth
- the battery and coil power are very very important because:
- it costs more coil power to spark a sparkplug wich is :
- cold
- running rich of fuel mixture
- low voltage reading
- high rpm

The engine should do something! if there gets petrol in and a spark?
it should yes but it isnt turning fast enough to start. and the fuel line having a leak meant a slight reduction in fuel. new line alos on the to do list before i try again

Movi?

Regards,

Tks

[Edited on 6/4/06 by tks]

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tks

posted on 6/4/06 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
Ok,

Its easy,

If you try to start the engine without plugs and the startermotor don't spins like the vacuum cleaner!

and you hear a very hard noise like a big pump or something than you just haven't got rpm on the crank.

With no rpm on the crank the engine doesn't suck in any air ==> no fuel 2!

Sow you have a problem with your starter motor.

is it possible you burned it? cranking very much time after each other??

the engine should read 700rpm with no plugs in easyly...


sow your problem lies for me in the starter motor or the starter motor relais!

How are the wires to that relais?

Did you try to touch with the 2 leads directly the starter motor? does it spin??

Tks





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tks

posted on 6/4/06 at 09:39 PM Reply With Quote
mhh

the only thing

you could try is the good old

squirt your self into the cilinde rholes

a very small amount of fuel per sprakplug.

and fit back the sparkplugs ..

and try to start,

it should do something,

if it does its a healthy sing.

next step is to also put an bit in the manifold... sow it doesn't need your carbs that much..

did you drain the old fuel of that?

normally a engine cranking should get wet plugs..

sow try to start with fuel in the manifold and wiht an bit of it in the holes...

with a bit of luckit will start....

while cranking the rpm reader should bounce between the 0 and the 1000rpm...

wiht out plugs it should spin very fast..

do you think that fitting the starter you could have managed to press the pinon onto the crankring of the flywheel? in that way creating allot of resistance for the engine(read startermotor)??

try the fuel direct in the hole!, it always works also with cars that has stand for a time

the problem is also fuel sow spray it in and crank and tellus what it did..

Tks

[Edited on 6/4/06 by tks]





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Jon Ison

posted on 6/4/06 at 09:45 PM Reply With Quote
Ive only scanned thru very quickly and seen timing mentioned, but if you still have the original symptoms, turns over very slowly then 9/10 times the timing is too far advanced, if you have not tried it, lossen the dizzy, turn the key and retard the timing whilst turning over, chances are it will turn over quicker and fire once retarded enough, sorry if its been suggested/tried, if not try it.






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AlexS

posted on 18/4/06 at 08:44 PM Reply With Quote
wow had to go back ages to find this, just an update, replaced few bits, cleaned the rest, set it all up and attached more earthing wires than i know what to do with (and found a really good ford spares shop where the guy knows lots about ford engines which helped) anyway its now turning over at speed and almost starting, but ud be rusty too if you hadnt run for months on end! just about to run some last checks on the sparks and tidy everything up then looks like i finally have a car that goes
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