Mave
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 07:55 AM |
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Difference between Mondeo and Focus blacktop?!?
Can anyone tell me the difference between a Mondeo and Focus Zetec 2.0 blacktop? I know there are differences, but I don't know what they are,
and if they are of influence on which one is preferable. Can anyone shed some light on this?
Cheers,
Marcel
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r1_pete
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 08:03 AM |
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AFAIK, the block head oil pump water pump etc are the same, the sump, inlet and exhaust manifolds differ. I do know the sump on the focus would have
the well at the back in a rwd application, not sure about the Mondy.
Rgds.
Pete.
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whitestu
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 08:51 AM |
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I think r1_pete is right. I had a Focus 1.8 engine in mine and now have a Mondeo 2.0. It was a straight swap.
The sumps look the same and are certainly interchangeable.
Stu
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stevebubs
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 10:28 AM |
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Pretty sure the sump is the same.
Don't know about the inlet/exhaust manifolds, but the mounting faces are the same.
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Mave
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 10:44 AM |
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Well, I've been offered an apparently new (Mondeo?) blacktop engine. But the camcover looks different to all the blacktops I've seen over
the years; there are 3 holes on either side of the spark plug leads (in the high sections of the camcover). I've never seen it. (maybe for
mounting some kind of cover over the leads?) The camcover itself is smoothed and primered, so I can't tell which logo's were on there.
That makes me a bit uncertain; if that's different, then what else can be different (inside).
I'm confident that it is a blacktop though (looking at waterpump, sump, oilfilter). It has a cast exhaust manifold (I've seen that before
on blacktops). Cambelt cover is also different than the ones I know on blacktops.
Unfortunately, it doesn't have an engine number (which is common in new exchange engines, as I understand), so that doesn't help me to
find more info.
It's 250 notes cheaper than the new (Focus?) blacktop that is advertised everywhere.
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whitestu
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 11:01 AM |
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Have you got a picture?
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stevebubs
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 11:21 AM |
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I've a Mondeo blacktop in mine.
Absolutely nothing out of the ordinary involved in fitting it.
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coozer
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 12:17 PM |
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I noticed as well my ST170, which is a blacktop but very late, well after production for the Mondeo ceased has a different block, not radically
different just some of the M10 threaded holes missing/in different places.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Mave
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 01:10 PM |
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Here they are; see the holes besides the plug leads. I've never seen those on any zetec. Also, the top cover of the cambelt is ending on top of
the camcover.
 
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whitestu
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 01:16 PM |
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Dunno what the holes in the cam cover are for but other than that it looks like a normal blacktop to me.
Stu
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pocket rocket
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 03:13 PM |
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my zetec se 1.6 has some holes in the top of the cam cover, small clips that hold the ht leads and fuel line clip into them... ill see if i can find a
pic.
Dam...iv consused my ability with my intentions!
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pocket rocket
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 03:18 PM |
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not quite the same as yours but may account for some of the holes. 
 
Rescued attachment rocker cover clips for loco.JPG
Dam...iv consused my ability with my intentions!
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Schrodinger
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| posted on 19/2/09 at 11:25 AM |
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That cam cover looks remarkably like a silver top, why would you prime a plastic cover? the silver top is ally.
From what I can see the sump looks like an escort silvertop sump as well, but they will fit on a blacktop
Keith
Aviemore
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jacko
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| posted on 19/2/09 at 04:47 PM |
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Image deleted by owner
This is a Focus black top
Photo from Dunk3 archives
ps the sump on a mondeo is a bit wider at the bottom then a focus but will fit both engines
Jacko
[Edited on 19/2/09 by jacko]
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