speedyxjs
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 12:21 PM |
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another petition - MOT 4-2-2
Another petition this time against the idea to make MOT's after 4 years from new and
then every 2 years thereafter rather than the 3-1-1 we have at the moment.
[Edited on 12-9-11 by speedyxjs]
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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MikeCapon
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 12:29 PM |
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Why? What's the problem with 4-2-2?
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 12:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeCapon
Why? What's the problem with 4-2-2?
Quite a few cars seem to be failing MOT's on their first MOT as alot of new cars nowadays are used as company vehicles and rack up pretty high
miles in 3 years so by 4 years could be pretty dangerous. I would like to know what others in the trade experience to see if its just me!
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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r1_pete
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 12:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
quote:
Originally posted by MikeCapon
Why? What's the problem with 4-2-2?
Quite a few cars seem to be failing MOT's on their first MOT as alot of new cars nowadays are used as company vehicles and rack up pretty high
miles in 3 years so by 4 years could be pretty dangerous. I would like to know what others in the trade experience to see if its just me!
Add to that the number of people buying cheap old cars which have just scraped through an MOT, and treating them as disposable after a year, they
would then have 2 years to deteriorate before being 'forced' off the road or repaired.
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UncleFista
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 12:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeCapon
Why? What's the problem with 4-2-2?
Have a look at this website and tell me the average car owner should drive
their car for 2 years before having it looked at by a mechanically minded person.
I think most posters on here forget how little most people know about their cars, the cars on that site are "driven" in to the garage..
example;
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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CRAIGR
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 01:50 PM |
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No doubt it will be signed by the owner of every mot station in the land.
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 03:15 PM |
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I'm all for keeping 3-1-1, while it's expensive and frustrating for me who maintains cars well, for every me there's 20 someone
elses who don't know their arse from their elbow and never look at the car or get it serviced. I've seen dozens of cars with bald tyres,
cars that pull drastically on hard braking - all sorts that I can spot just driving down the road, let alone with a set of ramps and an inspection
lamp.
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pmc_3
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 03:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
quote:
Originally posted by MikeCapon
Why? What's the problem with 4-2-2?
Quite a few cars seem to be failing MOT's on their first MOT as alot of new cars nowadays are used as company vehicles and rack up pretty high
miles in 3 years so by 4 years could be pretty dangerous. I would like to know what others in the trade experience to see if its just me!
By the time the car i've got at the moment was 4 years old it had covered 120k miles!
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britishtrident
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 03:45 PM |
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My understanding it is not going to be 4-2-2 which I actually think would be a very good thing what we are likely to get is a much stricter
version of the current 3-1-1 systemie the worst of both worlds.
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 03:51 PM |
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Why do you think 4-2-2 is a good thing?
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 04:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by UncleFista
quote:
Originally posted by MikeCapon
Why? What's the problem with 4-2-2?
Have a look at this website and tell me the average car owner should drive
their car for 2 years before having it looked at by a mechanically minded person.
I think most posters on here forget how little most people know about their cars, the cars on that site are "driven" in to the garage..
example;
Is that a brake disc?
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AndyRead
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 04:17 PM |
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As above why 4-2-2?
Not only is 3-1-1 better for the safety of the driver & all other road users,
It is also hard enough for MOT stations to make a good living without halving the car turnover!
Andy 
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Macbeast
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 04:36 PM |
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Let's say I scrape through the MOT with tyres that are just within limits. Are they going to be legal / safe after two more years ?
London minicabs have to do MOT every six months.
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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Benzine
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 04:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
Is that a brake disc?
is it half of what used to be a vented brake disk?
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iank
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 05:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by AndyRead
As above why 4-2-2?
Not only is 3-1-1 better for the safety of the driver & all other road users,
It is also hard enough for MOT stations to make a good living without halving the car turnover!
When they introduced that in Canada (maybe just in BC) they doubled the price of their MOT equivalent to deal with that 'problem' - so
anyone wanting 4-2-2 because of the apparent cost advantage might want to think about that.
[Edited on 12/9/11 by iank]
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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scootz
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 05:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by UncleFista
Have a look at this website and tell me the average car owner should drive
their car for 2 years before having it looked at by a mechanically minded person.
I think most posters on here forget how little most people know about their cars, the cars on that site are "driven" in to the garage..
Example;
What's wrong with that! Plenty of meat left on it... and there are 3 other ones as well!
It's Evolution Baby!
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 05:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Macbeast
Let's say I scrape through the MOT with tyres that are just within limits. Are they going to be legal / safe after two more years ?
London minicabs have to do MOT every six months.
Lucky blighters, here in East Northants it's 3 (yes THREE) Hackney tests (like MOT, but strickter) plus annual MOT.
Personally, having worked in the motor trade, been a mechanic and MOT tester, and, having seen the condition of cars that the general public are
'happy' driving around in, then I say keep it as is.
1, gentleman called in to work shop with an intermitent brake problem (Montego estate). - N/S/F wheel bearing so badly collapsed that the vehicle
needed new bearing, bearing carrier (front hub knuckle), Outer CV joint, CV drive flange into bearing, new discs & pads ( N/S/F disc had fouled on
calliper carrier and was damaged).
2, Older gentleman had driven his Fiat 20 miles to our test station, it needed to be tested because he spent the last year & a half in hospital
and now he was out it needed testing so he could drive to the shops in Milton Keynes (I was in Bedford). the car was a 1970's Fiat and was
covered in moss, I put it on the MOT ramp and when I started to jack it up at the front, the car started to bend in the middle and the sills started
to open up, it was that rotten,I suspended the test, advised the customer that the was in my opinion unsafe to be on the road and given its condition,
I was unwilling to do the mot test and the vehicle should be recovered away from the depot. 'Oh its all right I'll drive it slowly
home' says he.
I could go on, quite easily.......
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 06:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Macbeast
Let's say I scrape through the MOT with tyres that are just within limits. Are they going to be legal / safe after two more years ?
London minicabs have to do MOT every six months.
Following the German model which is where the idea tyre tread limit for passing the test would be raised, in effect you have to buy a full set of
tyres for every MOT.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 09:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
quote:
Originally posted by Macbeast
Let's say I scrape through the MOT with tyres that are just within limits. Are they going to be legal / safe after two more years ?
London minicabs have to do MOT every six months.
Following the German model which is where the idea tyre tread limit for passing the test would be raised, in effect you have to buy a full set of
tyres for every MOT.
Warrington does 6 months too, but at least it's one fee!
The tread limit isn't a bad idea, 1.6mm minimum to be legal but require (say) 2mm for MOT
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 12/9/11 at 10:50 PM |
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Following the German model which is where the idea tyre tread limit for passing the test would be raised, in effect you have to buy a full set of
tyres for every MOT.
Hmmm my other half recently had to replace her rear tyres after they started cracking - 4.5mm of tread across the tyre despite 7 years of driving (60K
miles) on it!
Either way, don't think it makes any sense to have 2 years between at all - I can see no argument for it.
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